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Postby Satiah » Mar 02, 2021 12:38

fiskgrodan wrote:
Pendalith wrote:My first suggestion is to always go anon when exping in the frontiers. 8O That being said , dont look for a persons sense of honor to match up with yours, its a code you can only hold yourself to. Yes ppl cheat here , either spy accounts,vpns, and exploiting archer bugs.

Do you know how the archery system is being exploited? Do you think there is enough information to create a bug report?

It has something to do with volley, longshot and ground targeting? It's a bug that's hard to do by mistake right? It seems like there are many players that abuse it intentionally. Which is a bit sad in my opinion.

A temporary quick fix from Abydos or someone else would be nice.

Sorry for going a bit off the thread topic.


Critshot while unstealthed, aswell as beeing able to followup critshots. The whole archery system is broken.
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Postby fremster » Mar 02, 2021 12:57

Satiah wrote:Critshot while unstealthed, aswell as beeing able to followup critshots. The whole archery system is broken.


Yeaaaaaa... i'm not sure about that. Scout slam + Critshot has always been a thing.

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Postby fiskgrodan » Mar 02, 2021 14:38

fremster wrote:
Satiah wrote:Critshot while unstealthed, aswell as beeing able to followup critshots. The whole archery system is broken.


Yeaaaaaa... i'm not sure about that. Scout slam + Critshot has always been a thing.

What is your opinion on "double tapping"?
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Postby fremster » Mar 02, 2021 16:17

fiskgrodan wrote:
fremster wrote:
Satiah wrote:Critshot while unstealthed, aswell as beeing able to followup critshots. The whole archery system is broken.


Yeaaaaaa... i'm not sure about that. Scout slam + Critshot has always been a thing.

What is your opinion on "double tapping"?


"Double tapping" on its own is not a major issue in my opinion. A scout, ranger or hunter (all realms have access to it) will not kill a caster by double tapping alone - until additional parameters are thrown into the equation. (I am not talking about level 47 casters in blue armor here).

Add 2 str relics, good buffs, keep bonuses damage % and some additional crit luck (falcons eye), then the combination becomes more powerful.

Casters who run AF charge are unlikely to die from the combination alone even with the above factored in.

After the double tap, there is also a cool down period where the archer has to redraw to continue shooting (2.x-4 seconds depending on the shot selected), so if the archer does fail to drop the target, the chances of doing so diminish.

Anyway, double tap is so last year. Didn't you hear of the "Tripple tap"?

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Postby fiskgrodan » Mar 02, 2021 16:31

fremster wrote:
fiskgrodan wrote:
fremster wrote:...
What is your opinion on "double tapping"?


"Double tapping" on its own is not a major issue in my opinion. A scout, ranger or hunter (all realms have access to it) will not kill a caster by double tapping alone - until additional parameters are thrown into the equation. (I am not talking about level 47 casters in blue armor here).

Add 2 str relics, good buffs, keep bonuses damage % and some additional crit luck (falcons eye), then the combination becomes more powerful.

Casters who run AF charge are unlikely to die from the combination alone even with the above factored in.

After the double tap, there is also a cool down period where the archer has to redraw to continue shooting (2.x-4 seconds depending on the shot selected), so if the archer does fail to drop the target, the chances of doing so diminish.

Anyway, double tap is so last year. Didn't you hear of the "Tripple tap"?

Do you consider it a bug abuse/exploit?
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Postby fremster » Mar 02, 2021 16:42

fiskgrodan wrote:Do you consider it a bug abuse/exploit?


I think the only opinion that matters at this stage is that of Abydo's.

He considered it an exploit to focus pull the dragon, so they were removed.
He obviously doesn't consider it an exploit to RP farm 10k < 1.5 hour.

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Postby Satiah » Mar 02, 2021 17:19

fremster wrote:
Satiah wrote:Critshot while unstealthed, aswell as beeing able to followup critshots. The whole archery system is broken.


Yeaaaaaa... i'm not sure about that. Scout slam + Critshot has always been a thing.


I just checked Aoln's old video. Was about to type here, you can see he needs to stealth for a critshot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjxBx5X1uvw

But then at 20:21 the Tarantino soundtrack starts and some big letters say Pre-Toa. There he critshots without stealth. I guess working as intended.
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Postby Antiks » Mar 04, 2021 03:01

Yes eventually the crit shot thing was patched/fixed and then when new RA's came out they also fixed volley (making it so all arrows are released at once instead of making the player manually shoot each shot). Before that time period, which would include the Uth ruleset, as an archer class you could only crit shot someone that was: not engaged in combat, or if in combat the target must be stunned, or below 20% health so that they are moving slow (walking). I might be missing one more mechanic or cavate though.

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Postby Glacier » May 04, 2021 03:39

Satiah wrote:
fremster wrote:
Satiah wrote:Critshot while unstealthed, aswell as beeing able to followup critshots. The whole archery system is broken.


Yeaaaaaa... i'm not sure about that. Scout slam + Critshot has always been a thing.


I just checked Aoln's old video. Was about to type here, you can see he needs to stealth for a critshot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjxBx5X1uvw

But then at 20:21 the Tarantino soundtrack starts and some big letters say Pre-Toa. There he critshots without stealth. I guess working as intended.



Crit shot does not require stealth it has parameters on players in combat and running I believe. Double tap is an exploit .

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