soooo... just wondering.. what do we need to do to drum up more action?
we've been running a couple groups of albs around those times at least 3 nights a week, sometimes every night, and take every single keep there is because noone comes out and fights us. We'd run with fewer numbers (just our guild 5-8 man) but soon as keeps start getting taken more people come which i cant blame em. Unfortunately.. i dont play earlier so I dont get to take part in the actual decent action i keep hearing happens in earlier/EU times. so.. whats it take to get you guys out?
literally scratching my head. almost considering rerolling, just would hate to break up my guild which is full of some of the best/fun to play with people ive ever grouped with.

sooo open to suggestions

From 11PM EST to 8 AM EST - hibernias population reaches a maximum of 70-80 people - we just dent have enough people to come out and fight

That would be 70 people out of 400 online - so I dont know why the mids arent coming out

Well for example.... last night / who show 100/258 were alb. I get that's an advantage... But 2 hours of running the frontiers I found a total of about 7 hibs, 1 mid. Didn't see much more spam than that and I was purposefully only running a 4 man instead of more.
If there were 70 of each other realm online though... how do we get them to come out and fight?? 70 is more than enough to come crush 1-2 groups of albs.

So what's the real reason? No leaders? No bards or Pac healers?
I've had a bunch of success with no sorc groups so that can't be all it is unless people aren't prepared to experiment. Just want action is all and if there are only 70 hibs online or mids that's still plenty for action if they would come out.
So I ask again... what can be done to get you out fighting at night?

Drakkars wrote:Well for example.... last night / who show 100/258 were alb. I get that's an advantage... But 2 hours of running the frontiers I found a total of about 7 hibs, 1 mid. Didn't see much more spam than that and I was purposefully only running a 4 man instead of more.
If there were 70 of each other realm online though... how do we get them to come out and fight?? 70 is more than enough to come crush 1-2 groups of albs.

So what's the real reason? No leaders? No bards or Pac healers?
I've had a bunch of success with no sorc groups so that can't be all it is unless people aren't prepared to experiment. Just want action is all and if there are only 70 hibs online or mids that's still plenty for action if they would come out.
So I ask again... what can be done to get you out fighting at night?

It's that no one solos or small mans on this server because of no QoL changes. No port to frontier zones, no bind stones, no hastener speed to get people to a fight, no stackable potions, lack of s/c and d/q charge items, 2min invig pots. I mean the list goes on and on...it's sad.

There is ZERO reason to go out without 8 or a zerg. They don't incentivize solo/small man. They make it a pain in the ass. THAT is why the action is terrible with low pop. I regularly sit in emain, at AMG, no stealth and don't see anyone for 30minutes.

Drakkars wrote:Well for example.... last night / who show 100/258 were alb. I get that's an advantage... But 2 hours of running the frontiers I found a total of about 7 hibs, 1 mid. Didn't see much more spam than that and I was purposefully only running a 4 man instead of more.
If there were 70 of each other realm online though... how do we get them to come out and fight?? 70 is more than enough to come crush 1-2 groups of albs.

So what's the real reason? No leaders? No bards or Pac healers?
I've had a bunch of success with no sorc groups so that can't be all it is unless people aren't prepared to experiment. Just want action is all and if there are only 70 hibs online or mids that's still plenty for action if they would come out.
So I ask again... what can be done to get you out fighting at night?

A few things. A regular US zerg occurs during East Coast hours. Once that breaks, around 8-9 PM PST, people are either logging because they're EST (we have a proportionately large EST population, which I assumed was universally true but maybe not) or are fatigued because they've been doing EST RvR for the last few hours and want a break. Further, we're ****** tired, man. RvR has lived in our back yard for months. A couple of months ago the entire alliance (there's only one among the zerging guilds, really) just kind of sat around while our relics got taken because we were SO tired of having to defend our relics every night during PST hours (causing a lot of late nights for -- let's be real -- a video game. Really?) Losing the relics changed the landscape for a little while, but then the keeptake gruops came back to Hibernia. And here we are.

So between EST pop logging, day-of fatigue, and continually-being-attacked fatigue, the PST players are kind of in a ****** position.

To your point regarding numbers, there are 70 online, but only maybe 20 50's. And most of those are crafting, powerleveling, or farming, because folks are preparing to go to bed.

And, to your point, no Bards, and sometimes not even Enchanters. That means no speed, and that's just unpleasant for everybody. And while Alb can survive with no Sorc because their caster baseline is a root -- so at least you've got SOMETHING -- we get a baseline stun. While that's awesome, it's not going to control a fight.

The best way to drum up action currently in the off hours: Stop going to emain.