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Postby barto22 » Mar 29, 2017 09:40

How does baod work? How much resist does it give? It's a set amount or based on something or what? Includes melee resists too?


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Postby Shafi » Mar 29, 2017 14:26

aylictal wrote:
Frosty wrote:By doing that you are forgoing lots of important RA"s as a hib caster. Goodbye to cast speed and other dmg ra's



Gee, by speccing into sos, i lose avoid pain, ignore pain, purge, and a lot of other important RA's as a minstrel.

/rollseyes

Any chanter who doesn't get baod after mcl is a moron anyway, or solos/small mans exclusively. In a group, every chanter should have it, just the same as every cleric has bof, because it is clearly the best ra they can get. Saying a chanter needs dmg ra's over baod is like saying a cleric needs healing ra's over bof. It's retarded.


Who cares if the only debuffer in a debuffnuke grp is oom all the time, as long as you have the mighty BAoD every 30 minutes. You will be unkillable! Now if you only had mana after BAoD runs out... :lol:
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Postby aylictal » Mar 29, 2017 18:20

barto22 wrote:How does baod work? How much resist does it give? It's a set amount or based on something or what? Includes melee resists too?


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Doesn't include melee resists. It's a flat 50% increase to magic resists if it is how it worked on live. This also means things like nearsight which completely neuter casters and support last a few seconds at best if applied to a target with the effect. Basically anything casted on anything with it up does very little (roots, mez, nearsight, magical snares / healer or minstrel stuns, damage).

Also those cute little debuffs set up before debuff nuking people, they won't even last long enough for a caster to actually use a nuke after debuffing because the debuff will instantly expire as a result. Those 500 dmg cabalists without debuff turn into 250 baseline nukes, and oh yeah, that'll get cut by the aura as well, so those caba nukes effectively turn into sub triple digit (<100 dmg) with it up. This is without a warden as well. WIth a warden you're pretty much effectively immune to magic damage altogether with it up.

But yeah, those poor little enchanters need mastery of the art, aug acuity, and wild power first or else they do no dmg.

:rollseyes harder
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Postby Exde » Mar 29, 2017 18:27

aylictal wrote:
barto22 wrote:How does baod work? How much resist does it give? It's a set amount or based on something or what? Includes melee resists too?


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Doesn't include melee resists. It's a flat 50% increase to magic resists if it is how it worked on live. This also means things like nearsight which completely neuter casters and support last a few seconds at best if applied to a target with the effect. Basically anything casted on anything with it up does very little (roots, mez, nearsight, magical snares / healer or minstrel stuns, damage).

Also those cute little debuffs set up before debuff nuking people, they won't even last long enough for a caster to actually use a nuke after it before it expires.

But yeah, those poor little enchanters need mastery of the art, aug acuity, and wild power first or else they do no dmg.

:rollseyes harder


plays a minstrel not enchanter, has multiple people disagree, still thinks he's right. :gaga:
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Postby Sendnudes » Mar 29, 2017 18:27

Enchanters actually only need /release
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Postby aylictal » Mar 29, 2017 18:32

Exde wrote:
aylictal wrote:
barto22 wrote:How does baod work? How much resist does it give? It's a set amount or based on something or what? Includes melee resists too?


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Doesn't include melee resists. It's a flat 50% increase to magic resists if it is how it worked on live. This also means things like nearsight which completely neuter casters and support last a few seconds at best if applied to a target with the effect. Basically anything casted on anything with it up does very little (roots, mez, nearsight, magical snares / healer or minstrel stuns, damage).

Also those cute little debuffs set up before debuff nuking people, they won't even last long enough for a caster to actually use a nuke after it before it expires.

But yeah, those poor little enchanters need mastery of the art, aug acuity, and wild power first or else they do no dmg.

:rollseyes harder


plays a minstrel not enchanter, has multiple people disagree, still thinks he's right. :gaga:


No i just laugh at people saying they'd trade 2x gp for sos.

Fine, but let's trade your baod for our bof and we'll call it square son.

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Postby Exde » Mar 29, 2017 19:05

you are the only person who compared bof to boas but ok signature less random minstrel.
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Postby aylictal » Mar 29, 2017 19:08

Exde wrote:you are the only person who compared bof to boas but ok signature less random minstrel.


English more random bard ;)

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Postby Cofie » Mar 29, 2017 20:25

might wanna check your pot management if you are oom every fight. especially with 3 power relics

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Postby Shafi » Mar 31, 2017 15:55

Cofie wrote:might wanna check your pot management if you are oom every fight. especially with 3 power relics


It's not like you won't run oom even with perfect pot management.

So the bottom line is, just drink enough pots, spec BAoD asap, drop it and rule the frontiers every 30 minutes.

I am glad I finally know what to do with my ench.
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Postby Cofie » Mar 31, 2017 15:58

you probably wont rule the frontiers even with baod. some player skill is still required :>

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