As if killing grays in DF's really contributes to the server.

Not like we'll see them beyond Thidranki anyway.

The Realms are at War. Do not enter the frontiers if you do not wish to be hunted down.

_Oglop_ wrote:Not like we'll see them beyond Thidranki anyway.

The Realms are at War. Do not enter the frontiers if you do not wish to be hunted down.

+1

_Oglop_ wrote:Not like we'll see them beyond Thidranki anyway.

The Realms are at War. Do not enter the frontiers if you do not wish to be hunted down.

I'm not arguing against it or for it, just simply stating facts. You said stealthers dont contribute to the realm but neither does killing grays. Stealthers can help swing an 8 vs 8 fight in their realms side, they can take keeps, they give intel on enemy locations, they also help to prevent other stealthers from camping and adding in fights on occasions. These are just a few things stealthers do to "contribute to the realms" along with many others unmentioned.

The only thing killing grays in DF does is make the other realm go farm elsewhere for xp, causing them longer times to potentially get to frontier RvR. Mind you that I've heard you in TS and on these forums talk about how you wished there was more action in Frontier RvR. This is not exactly the way to get more people out. I do agree that most of them will not play their toons much past Thid, but to say that none of them will is just a bold face lie, and regardless I dont think that justifys the action of killing them "for the realm." Admit you kill them out of boredom, or maybe because it might cause some lvl 50's to come down, but to say its for the betterment of your realm is just an excuse and nothing more.

I need no excuse for spilling enemy blood.

This is probably the simplest way to describe it, it's as if Stealthers are a completely separate game from Dark Ages of Camelot. Sure, stealthers "can" do all these things - but they don't. Not on Uthgard. What do they all do here? Fight amongst their tiny clique of stealther vs. stealther. Completely sectioned, separate from the visible RvR.

Just envision Camelot without Stealthers - so, much, fun, er-muh-god. Players would be encouraged to play "real" classes as they would not have to deal with Stealthers - usually the bane of basically any non-stealth class alone.

I've played Uthgard for 3 years, the action (looking at both before I started grey-ganking and after) has essentially remained the same for US-prime time. Of which I no longer really care for due to lack in variety of players to fight and general lack of action. Now that I've come to the realization this server is 90% grinding and 10% of actual RvR, I have absolutely no problem hampering the PvE process'. For years I had hopes this server would improve in RvR night population - nope. It's a general waste of time logging in at these low-peak hours, unless you have aspirations for PvE or join the Stealthers / Duelers.

or maybe because it might cause some lvl 50's to come down

No sh!t. Dispatch la Nayeh, or forever endure the chaos.

As far as the "I've heard you in TS . . . " claims go - that's enough. You have exhausted this mode of reference. We have probably had a total of 5 confrontations in TS -

You don't know me.

~

As for the original poster,

Play however you wish. There will always be others displeased and condemn the way you play.

_Oglop_ wrote:... as if Stealthers are a completely separate game from Dark Ages of Camelot. Sure, stealthers "can" do all these things - but they don't. Not on Uthgard. What do they all do here? Fight amongst their tiny clique of stealther vs. stealther. Completely sectioned, separate from the visible RvR...

if u have no idea what stealthers do at least shut up and dont spread lies

_Oglop_ wrote:This is probably the simplest way to describe it, it's as if Stealthers are a completely separate game from Dark Ages of Camelot. Sure, stealthers "can" do all these things - but they don't. Not on Uthgard. What do they all do here? Fight amongst their tiny clique of stealther vs. stealther. Completely sectioned, separate from the visible RvR.

Just envision Camelot without Stealthers - so, much, fun, er-muh-god. Players would be encouraged to play "real" classes as they would not have to deal with Stealthers - usually the bane of basically any non-stealth class alone.

So for the guy who spouts so much about how this server needs to be live like you make an aweful huge statement to remove 7 classes that were implemented from the start in DAOC. Sorry they dont qualify as a "real" class like the standard classes you use in an 8 man. YAY!!! DAOC would be so awesome if everyone ran with the same 8 man perfect set up and only ran with the best group classes.

_Oglop_ wrote:I've played Uthgard for 3 years, the action (looking at both before I started grey-ganking and after) has essentially remained the same for US-prime time. Of which I no longer really care for due to lack in variety of players to fight and general lack of action. Now that I've come to the realization this server is 90% grinding and 10% of actual RvR, I have absolutely no problem hampering the PvE process'. For years I had hopes this server would improve in RvR night population - nope. It's a general waste of time logging in at these low-peak hours, unless you have aspirations for PvE or join the Stealthers / Duelers.

Then do everyone a favor and find a new game. Basically the whole paragraph above is "I dont like this server so I'm going to do whatever I can to ruin other people's fun." Once again, I DONT CARE IF YOU GRAY GANK. This is not an argument about gray ganking. I agree with you that if a person xp's or goes in an RvR zone in an RvR-centric game then they have to deal with being possibly killed. I only used the gray ganking comment in regards to you saying stealthers have no place on uthgard. In other words, gray ganking has very little use besides what I mentioned above. I know your a college boy, it shouldnt be to hard to figure out what I was talking about.

_Oglop_ wrote:As far as the "I've heard you in TS . . . " claims go - that's enough. You have exhausted this mode of reference. We have probably had a total of 5 confrontations in TS -

You don't know me.

5 times huh? Wow, your memory is very bad. I was in your TS for about 4-5 months on an almost nightly basis. You are right that we didnt have many 1 on 1 conversations because I normally found myself avoiding talking to you. You act like a *avoid sarcastic sentences in public pls* most of the time. Every night I would log in and enjoy some conversation with Idiap, Blato, Akip, and Corey and then would have to leave when I heard the following conversation in every fight you were in:

Nayeh: Tank on me, tank on me, TANK ON ME, TANK ON ME!!! GUYS GET THIS TANK OFF ME!!!

Group: He has immunity to slam and snare.

Nayeh: TANK ON ME, TANK ON ME, TANK ON ME....

(group dies)

Nayeh: Jesus guys, I'm done. This is pathetic. (user leaves your channel)

You are right bout one thing though. I dont "know" you and its because I never had a desire to get to "know" you. After hearing you whine about every single fight you had I flat out avoided you if I could. If there was no or little action you cried, if there was action and you ever got killed you quit.

_Oglop_ wrote:As for the original poster,

Play however you wish. There will always be others displeased and condemn the way you play.

Hey, for once we agree on something.

Once again, you bring up the same - probably the only worst instance of a TS conversation. Always the same, exhausted, conversation. As for the explanation about night RvR, I simply play at different times of the day when possible and log-out when the low-peak begins.

Must you turn every thread I post into personal insults directed toward me?

I'm flattered you spent yet another chunk of your day to attack me.

Edit: I picked out a new forum avatar for you.

RonELuvv wrote: You act like a [...] most of the time.

Please Zack, avoid writing what you think of other users if it's not nice. Netiquette resembles etiquette:

I would like to point out that you have also made some personal attacks on me in many other threads. Also, this didnt start out as a "personal" attack on you Nayeh. You said you thought stealthers did not contribute to the server. I simply pointed out that gray ganking, which you have lately been really speaking your mind about in other threads lately, also contributed little to the server. You then made your comeback. I made mine. You then made another come back and threw in some nice lil tidbits and made it personal. If you dont want me answering your comments then quit posting or quit responding to mine.

I wouldnt want to hurt Nayehs feelings....

_Oglop_ wrote:Once again, you bring up the same - probably the only worst instance of a TS conversation.

Must you turn every thread I post into personal insults directed toward me?

I'm flattered you spent yet another chunk of your day to attack me.

Instance? LOL, that is hilarious. Seriously, I was in your TS for 4-5 months on a nightly basis and heard that EXACT conversation I typed in there almost every single night. I guess that is your definition of an "instance".

Yes Nayeh, I must since you wanted to troll me and create this monster now you must deal with the keyboard jockey spending all of my time searching out your posts so I can personally attack you. Seriously, you just liked one of my posts in which I admited you were a good player. I'm honest and speak the truth for the most part. If you cant handle that then I dont know what to tell you. Maybe quit posting on blogs.

Its not attacking you, I'm pointing out your hyprocrisy. You say "Death to all enemies of Hibernia." An exact quote you sent me about a month ago. I come back with that you played on Alb for a very long time and still let some people live on other realms, IF they play with you. Evangelina comes to mind. You complain there is no action then brag about killing people xp'ing. I have seen you post that you wish stealthers wouldnt add in fights, but then say on here they serve no purpose because they only stick to themselves and have duels. Which is it? It cant be both. I could go on and on with this, but you would just make some smarta$$ comment along with a cute animated GIF. Nevermind the fact that you have been coming at me every bit as much as I have came after you.

There is a possibility to PM each other if u wanna keep talking.

Also, you were right Toten. I apologise for the insult and Xacrag you are also right. I will continue this via PM so the thread can continue on.