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Postby Raggnar » Feb 28, 2013 12:49

Nerzal wrote:It would be totally unfair to restore a deleted Character, just because he exists very long or is widely known in the community. Such things occur from time to time and noone else ever cared except the owner of the account.
If we restore one then we'd have a flood of people wanting to get Items/Chars back they lost due to acc-sharing.

And i agree, you guys should calm down before posting.


Yes, I agree nobody should have a "special" status, but being on server for years, being an honest player and someone who does not scam, cheat, insults or whatever counts for nothing? You know, only psychopaths see the world in black and white...normal and reasonable people understand that every truth in this universe is somewhere in the shades of grey.
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Postby Nerzal » Feb 28, 2013 12:55

Btw. just a hint.
The more you feed the troll with your complaints the more that guy has to laugh right know 60cm away from his screen. Keep that in mind, that this one guy is the happiest guy ever for that moment.
And the more you insult him the more fun he has.
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Postby Raggnar » Feb 28, 2013 13:01

Nerzal wrote:Btw. just a hint.
The more you feed the troll with your complaints the more that guy has to laugh right know 60cm away from his screen. Keep that in mind, that this one guy is the happiest guy ever for that moment.
And the more you insult him the more fun he has.



If he was a happy person, he would not have done what he did in the first place. Only insecure, unhappy, pathetic people can do that. If you are happy and fulfilled in your life, you have no need to harm others or scam them in any way. Yes, he might have a few laughs, I agree with you on that, but in the long run he's just another piece of human trash walking this earth and stealing oxygen from people who actually deserve it.
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Postby Suax01 » Feb 28, 2013 13:26

Traxx wrote:cool story


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Postby holsten-knight » Feb 28, 2013 13:33

i don't see how he should be happy about this classic selfown, his ACCs got banned the stuff and money is just lost (i hope) :roll:

From a human perspective i say restore comet, from a developer perspective of the server i would not, as everyone will demand such favor then.

I am the more human guy, so i would restore him... but i can understand if you will not.

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Postby Orihiime » Feb 28, 2013 13:35

Nerzal wrote:It would be totally unfair to restore a deleted Character, just because he exists very long or is widely known in the community. Such things occur from time to time and noone else ever cared except the owner of the account.
If we restore one then we'd have a flood of people wanting to get Items/Chars back they lost due to acc-sharing.

And i agree, you guys should calm down before posting.

No i dont agree with this, someone like him that was here for more than 6 year, never had a bad behavior and is appreciated by everyone should have his character back, its not like ramboz who deleted his char himself, someone did it to him. The time invested in a 10L9 char is not the same at some rr5 char, sorry
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Postby Herm666 » Feb 28, 2013 13:37

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Postby borog » Feb 28, 2013 14:42

If I had my account hacked no one would give a sh1t, yet the minute one of you high RR characters get deleted you want it restored.
This is typical of the kind of hypocritical bullcrap that exists in this community.

If there are rules, stick to them or they are pointless.

What you should do is emend the rules and create a function, so that if it is proven that your account was hacked by a third party (easily tested by IP Address), you can use a character recovery process to get it back. However, the length of time to wait for the recovery would be dependent on available GMs and existing workload.

To those who say "but i can fake my IP blah blah"; great but what would be the point?

you can spoof you IP just to delete your own character?

Go ahead, if they figure out you have done this.. bye bye character.

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Postby Nerzal » Feb 28, 2013 14:51

borog wrote:If I had my account hacked no one would give a sh1t, yet the minute one of you high RR characters get deleted you want it restored.
This is typical of the kind of hypocritical bullcrap that exists in this community.

If there are rules, stick to them or they are pointless.

What you should do is emend the rules and create a function, so that if it is proven that your account was hacked by a third party (easily tested by IP Address), you can use a character recovery process to get it back. However, the length of time to wait for the recovery would be dependent on available GMs and existing workload.

To those who say "but i can fake my IP blah blah"; great but what would be the point?

you can spoof you IP just to delete your own character?

Go ahead, if they figure out you have done this.. bye bye character.


If we can PROVE an account is really HACKED we do restore chars.
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Postby borog » Feb 28, 2013 15:02

Nerzal wrote:It would be totally unfair to restore a deleted Character.


um ok.

i guess you were referring to self deleted as opposed to hacked and deleted?

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Postby Jezzmin » Feb 28, 2013 15:12

where "self deleted" means "deleted by self fail" as for acc sharing and so on...
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Postby Juri » Feb 28, 2013 15:25

Jezzmin wrote:where "self deleted" means "deleted by self fail" as for acc sharing and so on...


No, it means that the owner of the account had no intentions to delete the char himself - he just got screwed. It has been verified that in this case the char cancellation is a direct consequence of the account being stolen, therefore the char should be restored.

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Postby Blue » Feb 28, 2013 15:29

To stop that discussion, due to the vast amount of time invested in Comets char we will restore Comet with skills but naked.
He knows himself that it was his mistake to trust the wrong guys and sharing his account data. Normally I will have no tolerance if account data was shared so don't count on a restore if it happens to you.

Word to all:
Stop sharing your account with others! Only yourself as account owner is responsible for the account. We don't take the responsibility from you to secure your login data. Anything that happens to your account in case you shared it with the wrong guys is final.

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