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Block , parry raid ?

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tborggren Warder Posts: 15 Joined: Jan 19, 2013 16:38	Reply with quote by tborggren » Jan 19, 2013 18:22 Anyone know ? Just wanner know if its the same old ******, that a PA lands and a fully plated and block/parry based class is instend dead ?

Austerim Alerion Knight Posts: 2743 Joined: Dec 15, 2010 16:27	Reply with quote by Austerim » Jan 19, 2013 18:34 It's been fixed. [3:10pm] <myrmidon^> You have to be a c*** to be awesome at daoc [3:10pm] <myrmidon^> that's what I learnt [3:11pm] <Frosty_> then why does austerim suck lordgriffon wrote:Oh by the way... ever seen a group of 8 smite clerics? Or play against a group like that? I have. Absolute devastation. The group that runs up against them can't kill them fast enough because smite clerics have sooooooo many tools at their disposal combined with decent ranged damage with 8 of them dudes doing it!

tborggren Warder Posts: 15 Joined: Jan 19, 2013 16:38	Reply with quote by tborggren » Jan 20, 2013 00:02 Fixed how ?

Austerim Alerion Knight Posts: 2743 Joined: Dec 15, 2010 16:27	Reply with quote by Austerim » Jan 20, 2013 00:09 It actually factors in AF, ABS, etc. [3:10pm] <myrmidon^> You have to be a c*** to be awesome at daoc [3:10pm] <myrmidon^> that's what I learnt [3:11pm] <Frosty_> then why does austerim suck lordgriffon wrote:Oh by the way... ever seen a group of 8 smite clerics? Or play against a group like that? I have. Absolute devastation. The group that runs up against them can't kill them fast enough because smite clerics have sooooooo many tools at their disposal combined with decent ranged damage with 8 of them dudes doing it!

tborggren Warder Posts: 15 Joined: Jan 19, 2013 16:38	Reply with quote by tborggren » Jan 20, 2013 00:12 Hmm i dont get it place a little more info

Austerim Alerion Knight Posts: 2743 Joined: Dec 15, 2010 16:27	Reply with quote by Austerim » Jan 20, 2013 00:38 PA/Backstab ignored AF, ABS, armor type before. It takes that all into account in its damage formula now. [3:10pm] <myrmidon^> You have to be a c*** to be awesome at daoc [3:10pm] <myrmidon^> that's what I learnt [3:11pm] <Frosty_> then why does austerim suck lordgriffon wrote:Oh by the way... ever seen a group of 8 smite clerics? Or play against a group like that? I have. Absolute devastation. The group that runs up against them can't kill them fast enough because smite clerics have sooooooo many tools at their disposal combined with decent ranged damage with 8 of them dudes doing it!

tborggren Warder Posts: 15 Joined: Jan 19, 2013 16:38	Reply with quote by tborggren » Jan 20, 2013 00:44 Well to me it still looks like that a PA/assasin can take one down in a few hit no matter class http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... ect=1(DEAD, DEAD) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXO2eecW-A8 (MORE LESS) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5mE6RQh ... tu.be(MORE OP)

imamizer Gryphon Knight Posts: 281 Joined: Mar 09, 2011 02:19	Reply with quote by imamizer » Jan 20, 2013 11:17 tborggren wrote:Well to me it still looks like that a PA/assasin can take one down in a few hit no matter class http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... ect=1(DEAD, DEAD) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXO2eecW-A8 (MORE LESS) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5mE6RQh ... tu.be(MORE OP) Couldn't watch all of it but the first one he is killing other stealthers and some of them are unbuffed i guess. The second one swaping poisoned weapons from his bag for every swing, thats it. You can see his PA is not that effective against thane and warrior. The third one, well ... he is a ranger. They dont have PA. And if you are talking about PA dmg he recieved rangers are not block/parry based plate users also. I couldnt find anything relevant about your question in these 3 vidoes, sorry

Tiberian1986 Myrmidon Posts: 173 Joined: Nov 10, 2011 21:05	Reply with quote by Tiberian1986 » Jan 20, 2013 16:20 The pa dmg is really no problem its only the damn viper Sb is in most cases easy to kill if they are not high rr (they got no sb love here so they cannot hit with crush and so..) they have rare viper 3 spec because they often are zerker or 5 spec specced. Ns is a good enemy but still good to kill. Well infi I dont know why but even for rr4 i have to use all my ras to win, it appears that every infi spamms his 120 dmg dot When i play with my 1200 hp hunter I can beat rr8+ rangers but rr4 infis (even without pa) are in most cases not possible because 1 viper proc kills 720 hp from my 1200 hp then ofc he switches weapon and makes also weapon dmg:P so even if I win viper kills me always. 1 unstyled hit + viper brings me down to 30-35% hp My thane gets 4xx pa hits my hunter 4xx too so thats really no problem. My experience as 3 realm player. Sb easy, ns ok, infi hard but u can also kill them. OFC depanding on skill and viperspec

borggren1 Guardian Posts: 6 Joined: Jan 27, 2013 20:10	Reply with quote by borggren1 » Jan 28, 2013 10:59 So a Tank are still more or less dead facing a assasin as allways JUHUUUUU

Cadam Gryphon Knight Posts: 282 Joined: Nov 19, 2009 01:00 Location: Paraguay ICQ	Reply with quote by Cadam » Jan 28, 2013 11:07 no tanks are performing fine vs assassins

borggren1 Guardian Posts: 6 Joined: Jan 27, 2013 20:10	Reply with quote by borggren1 » Jan 28, 2013 11:11 Hmm, then I am lost from what i here on this version, the PA / BS + follow up are still bringing at tank to 25 % hp and the Viper take care of the rest, lol they can even as allways Viper you after PA/BS and walk away and you still drop to the ground. What did I miss ?

imamizer Gryphon Knight Posts: 281 Joined: Mar 09, 2011 02:19	Reply with quote by imamizer » Jan 28, 2013 14:30 borggren1 wrote:the PA / BS + follow up are still bringing at tank to 25 % hp No, it doesn't hurt that much. Even it does, every solo spec toon has ip2 at least and most classes with shield spec hits good enough to kill assasins in stun if their purge is down. I find warriors, reaver, thanes and champions more dangerous.

Methusalem Phoenix Knight Posts: 1240 Joined: Mar 28, 2008 01:00 Location: Good Old Germany	Reply with quote by Methusalem » Jan 28, 2013 16:42 imamizer wrote:No, it doesn't hurt that much. Even it does, every solo spec toon has ip2 at least and most classes with shield spec hits good enough to kill assasins in stun if their purge is down. I find warriors, reaver, thanes and champions more dangerous. +1 (ps. dont forget a archerclass with dualwield and ip/pd ) Healowner wrote:Ranger: QQ Rest of server: ROFL bodoterror6 wrote:QQ MORE PLEASE PLEASEEEEEEEEE PLEASEEEEEEEEE, we owned you -> fact. now stfu, press tab and keep playing your miserable no skill characters ^^ bb