I personally know about 25 US people that rolled here about a year ago, who play to RVR and for no other reason, got 50 and quit by RR5/6 because of the many imbalances of a completely OF server with NF RAs..

If old RAs come here, there will be HUGE influx of people that come with it.....live is dying, and people have always wanted play the game when it was great, add in the fact its free, they may have to increase the 1k cap imo....and I know there would be a large influx of US players, RvR would be high pop 24/7

NTC, I would agree that having OF set up with NF RA's causes imbalances. I dont think anyone would argue with you on that, but the OF RA's were also flawed. I dont know what your experience was on Classic Live, but there was just as much complaining about imbalance (if not more) when it was classic RA's. Yes, I think you will see a huge surge of people for about 3 months after the Classic RA's get implemented, and it will be followed by a huge crash in #'s after they realise the same problems exist with Classic RA's that existed with New RA's. Yes, you wont here about how sombody's RR5 is to op'd, or how viper is unfair, or any of the ranger op comments, but you will here about how hybrids are now useless in groups. You will hear about how ranged stealthers are now all worthless, and you will hear a whole host of other issues. Switching from NF RA's to Classic RA's will not change the imbalance problem, it just shifts them around a bit.

By the way, I played on Live from about 2 months after inception till right after Catacombs expansion pack, so I DO know what i'm talking about.

Heres my vote:

- Work on making level 50 RvR better


Lvl 50 rvr was 1000x better when it was set to NEW FRONTIERS switching it to emain has only degraded it. Keep sieges are a joke now when only a few man needed to do it. This is not live like. They have destroyed good rvr by making keeps so easy to take. Also the line of sight issues with the old keeps has not been fixed like Mythic fixed it, so that also makes it lame. Plus no warmap so no one knows where to go to get into the action. Old frontiers is inferior in ever way possible to new frontiers except for the fact that its more of a RP farm when everyone hangs in one zone.

Would like to see a return to NF and NF keeps and lets get back to what the game was designed for. No matter what, the keep system is terrible here in OF.

Iam one of those on favour for old ras..NOT cuz of the viper change ( playing an assasin on my own ) and no NOt only for mos ranger "nerf" ( there is no real nerf, they will get 100% ip and avoid pain and true sight... ) but for this one and only reason : NEW ras on CLASSIC setup does NOT work !

new ras were introduced to fit with new ITEMS / ABILITIES which just dont exist on Uthgard...master levels...champ levels...artis etc.

Certain ras are plain TOO strong on current server setup...viper...YES...mos...YES...pd...YES

U just cant mix these POWERFULL ras with an old setting...thats why its a flameblob all over the forum.


Back to hybrid QQ : tell me...did u EVER see a thane in mid groups? how about champs in hib? Oh jeah theres the 1h overdmg levi spamer Reaver...but...with 30min timer on purge...will he REALLY be nerfed SO hard without det? Think before crying out...palas are mere slambots anyways...ppl will switch to arms and endupots...+ the FEW really GOOD and HIGH palas out there will still go on playing cuz...they are GOOD and HIGH already to afford many other ras which will make out for the lack of det...

RonELuvv wrote:NTC, I would agree that having OF set up with NF RA's causes imbalances. I dont think anyone would argue with you on that, but the OF RA's were also flawed. I dont know what your experience was on Classic Live, but there was just as much complaining about imbalance (if not more) when it was classic RA's. Yes, I think you will see a huge surge of people for about 3 months after the Classic RA's get implemented, and it will be followed by a huge crash in #'s after they realise the same problems exist with Classic RA's that existed with New RA's.

This is my view too. I also played from release until NF so I remember old realm abilities very well--especially considering I had group purge as a druid

Therefore I think even players who long for Old RA will become quickly disillusioned

This is pointless.

Read the other gazillion pages of this in other threads and all the cons and some nostalgic pros and judge for yourself...