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Hibenosa
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Postby Hibenosa » Nov 07, 2017 12:36

Hello Folks,

after a short break i am trying to finally get my alchemist legendary. I experienced a HUGE amount of money i had to spent to get my alchemist from 900-950 , so basically my questions are

1) How high do i have to skill alchemy, to be able to craft the latest procs?
2) What is the cheapest way to go there from 950.


and second question:

AFter finishing my Alchemist i would like to create another Crafter, and i chose my pala to become an armorcrafter. I figured out that for chain/plate stuff you have to have some tailored gloves, so therefore is it recommended to only craft studded stuff? Or is there any downside with it?

Thank you for your answers.
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Postby Samirane » Nov 07, 2017 14:37

latest proc reactive abla 1094 skill

950-1050 just skill with the 1k skill potions needing ingredients. in midgard using mirror or focus stone for cheap buying on CM. other realms you just need to check which one are cheap to get. in fact they start red you will loose material, but most time still cheaper then crafting with other stuff. maybe start when they are low ora or so and do some trophy potions before to get skill up to 980 around.

after that you are stuck on trophy potions and other expensive stuff. thats the reason why i am only 1073 atm. i do 10 trophy potions, wait untill they are sold and do 10 again ;)

sadly there is no really cheap way after 1050 anymore qq


for your AC Questions:

either you need to craft studded, yes, or ask a tailor who is skilling up if he do linen for mat while he get skillpoints. but this is only useful from af 102 because the other stuff is not easy to sell and chain is more expensive then studded to craft
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Postby Hibenosa » Nov 07, 2017 15:06

Samirane wrote:latest proc reactive abla 1094 skill

950-1050 just skill with the 1k skill potions needing ingredients. in midgard using mirror or focus stone for cheap buying on CM. other realms you just need to check which one are cheap to get. in fact they start red you will loose material, but most time still cheaper then crafting with other stuff. maybe start when they are low ora or so and do some trophy potions before to get skill up to 980 around.

after that you are stuck on trophy potions and other expensive stuff. thats the reason why i am only 1073 atm. i do 10 trophy potions, wait untill they are sold and do 10 again ;)

sadly there is no really cheap way after 1050 anymore qq


for your AC Questions:

either you need to craft studded, yes, or ask a tailor who is skilling up if he do linen for mat while he get skillpoints. but this is only useful from af 102 because the other stuff is not easy to sell and chain is more expensive then studded to craft


Oh great, so until 1050 it will be cheaper bc of the potions again, great! For the Trophy Potions, do i get all the material from the alchemist merchant as well?
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Postby Samirane » Nov 07, 2017 15:06

for some potions i need to walk to housing market
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Postby patouch » Nov 07, 2017 15:21

Getting to 1000 alch is quite affordable compared to what it takes to get to the last reactives.

The question to ask yourself is do you really want to spend 12 or 15 extra plats to max out alchemy.
On mid for instance, ablatives are sold for a tiny profit margin so you could just buy them off the market and 950 is enough to apply them yourself.


On the AC side, level exclusively on studded boots and gloves, and use fletching to keep woodworking up to your level, so that you'll be able to salvage/repair wood stuff as well.

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Postby Hibenosa » Nov 07, 2017 15:39

patouch wrote:Getting to 1000 alch is quite affordable compared to what it takes to get to the last reactives.

The question to ask yourself is do you really want to spend 12 or 15 extra plats to max out alchemy.
On mid for instance, ablatives are sold for a tiny profit margin so you could just buy them off the market and 950 is enough to apply them yourself.


On the AC side, level exclusively on studded boots and gloves, and use fletching to keep woodworking up to your level, so that you'll be able to salvage/repair wood stuff as well.



This is what i was thinking about. Maybe i will just raise alchemy as high as possible with the special potions, and buy the MhB Procs in Houseing.

Instead of spending those 10p on 40 points of alchemy, i could easily get the ACler to Leg right?
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Postby patouch » Nov 07, 2017 15:48

definitely.

The last alchemy points are going to cost you something like 100g per click. It's an expensive convenience to have, for no return.

Bringing AC to LGM will cost much less, something around 5 plats if you do it right.
Plus you'll likely get AF 102 mp and 99% pieces in the process, which you could sell to soften the investment.

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Postby Hibenosa » Nov 07, 2017 16:15

patouch wrote:definitely.

The last alchemy points are going to cost you something like 100g per click. It's an expensive convenience to have, for no return.

Bringing AC to LGM will cost much less, something around 5 plats if you do it right.
Plus you'll likely get AF 102 mp and 99% pieces in the process, which you could sell to soften the investment.


Thank you very much!

How high would you think are the costs for becoming a Leg ACler?
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Postby Samirane » Nov 07, 2017 16:23

Hibenosa wrote:
patouch wrote:Getting to 1000 alch is quite affordable compared to what it takes to get to the last reactives.

The question to ask yourself is do you really want to spend 12 or 15 extra plats to max out alchemy.
On mid for instance, ablatives are sold for a tiny profit margin so you could just buy them off the market and 950 is enough to apply them yourself.


On the AC side, level exclusively on studded boots and gloves, and use fletching to keep woodworking up to your level, so that you'll be able to salvage/repair wood stuff as well.



This is what i was thinking about. Maybe i will just raise alchemy as high as possible with the special potions, and buy the MhB Procs in Houseing.

Instead of spending those 10p on 40 points of alchemy, i could easily get the ACler to Leg right?


tbh.. i doubt 10p is enough for this 40 points ;) thats why i did this too. i just skill up with trophy potions atm and buy mhb on housing


ac is the better decision ;)
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Postby silenced » Nov 07, 2017 16:37

Since you play Albion, skilling up Armorcrafting is cheapest with Plate and Boned Studded. But this requires a tailor that makes inlets for the Plate for you, which can be annyoing to find someone with the spare time to do so.

Most people choose Studded/Boned Studded though since it's the most convenient, especially because of no tailor is needed.


Edit: Addendum

Finally decided to get my Alchemist to 1094 yesterday, after hanging at 1030 since April, and it took me almost exactly 9p in losses to go from 1047 - 1094 (after 140 green 1000 skill potions at 1047 I stopped making them).

Reactive Netherium Spirit - ~40x until 1069 - ~2.8p loss
Reactive Arcanium Spirit - 30x until 1084 - 3.5p loss
Reactive Arcanium Celeric - ~20x until 1094 (last one was a masterpiece with the skill to 1094) ~2.5p loss

Was rather quick too.
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