About the Spiritmaster pet's intercept ability

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Postby Nayru » Sep 30, 2008 20:04

After receiving several complaints about the intercept rate of the spiritmaster's pet: I have tested it for you.

Here's the chat.log:

*** Chat Log Opened: Tue Sep 30 19:48:38 2008

[19:48:43] Nayru hits your torso with his bright arcanium weighted double bladed axe for 205 damage!
[19:48:47] The spirit champion steps in front of you and takes the blow!
[19:48:47] Nayru hits your spirit champion for 33 (-5) damage.
[19:48:50] Nayru hits your hand with his bright arcanium weighted double bladed axe for 201 damage!
[19:48:54] The spirit champion steps in front of you and takes the blow!
[19:48:54] Nayru hits your spirit champion for 29 (-4) damage.
[19:48:58] Nayru hits your arm with his bright arcanium weighted double bladed axe for 209 damage!
[19:49:01] The spirit champion steps in front of you and takes the blow!
[19:49:01] Nayru hits your spirit champion for 32 (-5) damage.
[19:49:05] Nayru hits your head with his bright arcanium weighted double bladed axe for 213 damage!
[19:49:08] Nayru hits your leg with his bright arcanium weighted double bladed axe for 217 damage!
[19:49:12] The spirit champion steps in front of you and takes the blow!
[19:49:12] Nayru hits your spirit champion for 30 (-5) damage.
[19:49:12] Your spirit champion resists the effect!
[19:49:16] The spirit champion steps in front of you and takes the blow!
[19:49:16] Nayru hits your spirit champion for 28 (-4) damage.
[19:49:19] Nayru hits your leg with his bright arcanium weighted double bladed axe for 217 damage!
[19:49:23] The spirit champion steps in front of you and takes the blow!
[19:49:23] Nayru hits your spirit champion for 27 (-4) damage.
[19:49:27] The spirit champion steps in front of you and takes the blow!
[19:49:27] Nayru hits your spirit champion for 30 (-5) damage.
[19:49:31] The spirit champion steps in front of you and takes the blow!
[19:49:31] Nayru hits your spirit champion for 29 (-4) damage.
[19:49:34] Nayru hits your leg with his bright arcanium weighted double bladed axe for 217 damage!
[19:49:38] Nayru hits your head with his bright arcanium weighted double bladed axe for 217 damage!
[19:49:41] The spirit champion steps in front of you and takes the blow!
[19:49:41] Nayru hits your spirit champion for 27 (-4) damage.
[19:49:45] The spirit champion steps in front of you and takes the blow!
[19:49:45] Nayru hits your spirit champion for 31 (-5) damage.
[19:49:49] Nayru hits your arm with his bright arcanium weighted double bladed axe for 192 damage!
[19:49:52] Nayru hits your torso with his bright arcanium weighted double bladed axe for 217 damage!
[19:49:56] Nayru hits your torso with his bright arcanium weighted double bladed axe for 217 damage!
[19:50:00] The spirit champion steps in front of you and takes the blow!
[19:50:00] Nayru hits your spirit champion for 29 (-5) damage.
[19:50:03] The spirit champion steps in front of you and takes the blow!
[19:50:03] Nayru hits your spirit champion for 34 (-6) damage.
[19:50:07] The spirit champion steps in front of you and takes the blow!
[19:50:07] Nayru hits your spirit champion for 29 (-4) damage.
[19:50:11] The spirit champion steps in front of you and takes the blow!
[19:50:11] Nayru hits your spirit champion for 26 (-4) damage.
[19:50:14] Nayru hits your torso with his bright arcanium weighted double bladed axe for 217 damage!
[19:50:18] Nayru hits your leg with his bright arcanium weighted double bladed axe for 187 damage!
[19:50:21] Nayru hits your arm with his bright arcanium weighted double bladed axe for 217 damage!
[19:50:25] The spirit champion steps in front of you and takes the blow!
[19:50:25] Nayru hits your spirit champion for 35 (-6) damage.
[19:50:29] The spirit champion steps in front of you and takes the blow!
[19:50:29] Nayru hits your spirit champion for 30 (-5) damage.
[19:50:32] Nayru hits your arm with his bright arcanium weighted double bladed axe for 217 damage!
[19:50:36] The spirit champion steps in front of you and takes the blow!
[19:50:36] Nayru hits your spirit champion for 31 (-5) damage.
[19:50:40] Nayru hits your torso with his bright arcanium weighted double bladed axe for 191 damage!
[19:50:44] Nayru hits your torso with his bright arcanium weighted double bladed axe for 214 damage!
[19:50:47] The spirit champion steps in front of you and takes the blow!
[19:50:47] Nayru hits your spirit champion for 33 (-5) damage.
[19:50:51] The spirit champion steps in front of you and takes the blow!
[19:50:51] Nayru hits your spirit champion for 26 (-4) damage.
[19:50:55] Nayru hits your arm with his bright arcanium weighted double bladed axe for 211 damage!
[19:50:58] Nayru hits your leg with his bright arcanium weighted double bladed axe for 214 damage!
[19:51:02] The spirit champion steps in front of you and takes the blow!
[19:51:02] Nayru hits your spirit champion for 33 (-5) damage.
[19:51:05] Nayru hits your arm with his bright arcanium weighted double bladed axe for 217 damage!
[19:51:09] The spirit champion steps in front of you and takes the blow!
[19:51:09] Nayru hits your spirit champion for 29 (-4) damage.
[19:51:13] The spirit champion steps in front of you and takes the blow!
[19:51:13] Nayru hits your spirit champion for 29 (-4) damage.
[19:51:16] Nayru hits your torso with his bright arcanium weighted double bladed axe for 209 damage!
[19:51:20] The spirit champion steps in front of you and takes the blow!
[19:51:20] Nayru hits your spirit champion for 31 (-5) damage.
[19:51:24] The spirit champion steps in front of you and takes the blow!
[19:51:24] Nayru hits your spirit champion for 33 (-5) damage.
[19:51:27] Nayru hits your torso with his bright arcanium weighted double bladed axe for 198 damage!
[19:51:31] Nayru hits your torso with his bright arcanium weighted double bladed axe for 202 damage!

*** Chat Log Closed: Tue Sep 30 19:51:35 2008


So I have hit a spiritmaster 46 times (I didn't count, that's why it's such a weird count).
Attacks: 46
Hits: 23
Intercepted hits: 23


The skill 32 pet has an interceptchance of exactly 50%. This test's result couldn't have been better, to show you that. 23/46 is exactly 50%. The lower pets have smaller chances to intercept.

It is correctly implemented and working as intended, as we were trying to tell you more than once. And yes, the pet gets only 1/3 of the hit-damage. That's also correct.

If you want to know what to do now: Think of new tactics! You have played without an intercepting enemy for a long time. Remember: The pet will not intercept while it is stunned or mesmerized.

If you don't trust this test: Do it yourself. ;)

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Postby Phileas » Sep 30, 2008 20:11

thanks for this one :)
im very happy that the pets were implemented (with my SM being my main char ^^) and now to see all is fine just rocks ^^

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Postby Holundermann » Sep 30, 2008 20:40

Maybe you test the lower Pets as well. My feeling with lvl 7 Pet is about 80% Intercept..
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Postby panachier » Sep 30, 2008 20:47

"the pet gets only 1/3 of the hit-damage"

30X3 = 90

"Nayru hits your leg with his bright arcanium weighted double bladed axe for 217 damage"

isn't there a problem there?
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Postby Myx » Sep 30, 2008 22:31

panachier wrote:"the pet gets only 1/3 of the hit-damage"

30X3 = 90

"Nayru hits your leg with his bright arcanium weighted double bladed axe for 217 damage"

isn't there a problem there?


noticed that also

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Postby Agonii » Sep 30, 2008 23:08

the pet lvl 32 have 50% right but the others pet have more than 50% chance to intercept

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Postby Myx » Sep 30, 2008 23:54

actually noticed that almost every sm is running with lvl7 pet;]

so i think we got still 2 bugs there

the dmg that pet receives and the intercept chance of the lower pets

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Postby Blue » Oct 01, 2008 00:10

Interceptchance is absolutely fine. Just checked the rate of spirit soldier of a player and it was 20%. That the pet gets 1/3 damage was tested on live. There is no bug.
It's done when it's done. Thanks for your patience.
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Postby Myx » Oct 01, 2008 00:17

are u sure you are talking about 1/3?

cause in Nayru's test i see that its about 1/6

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Postby jrhadden » Oct 01, 2008 00:47

Nayru !!! INFIDELS!!!

Heres my test result :


[23:22:56] You auto-face frozen fenrir.
[23:22:58] You are no longer facing your target.
[23:22:59] The spirit swordsman steps in front of you and takes the blow!
[23:22:59] The frozen fenrir hits your spirit swordsman for 14 (+1) damage.
[23:23:02] The frozen fenrir attacks you and misses!
[23:23:06] The frozen fenrir hits your torso for 32 (-12) damage!
[23:23:09] The spirit swordsman steps in front of you and takes the blow!
[23:23:10] The frozen fenrir hits your spirit swordsman for 14 (+1) damage.
[23:23:12] The frozen fenrir hits your leg for 46 (-18) damage!
[23:23:16] The frozen fenrir hits your torso for 40 (-16) damage!
[23:23:20] The frozen fenrir hits your torso for 29 (-11) damage!
[23:23:23] The spirit swordsman steps in front of you and takes the blow!
[23:23:23] The frozen fenrir hits your spirit swordsman for 16 (+2) damage.
[23:23:26] The spirit swordsman steps in front of you and takes the blow!
[23:23:26] The frozen fenrir hits your spirit swordsman for 17 (+2) damage.
[23:23:30] The spirit swordsman steps in front of you and takes the blow!
[23:23:30] The frozen fenrir hits your spirit swordsman for 11 (+1) damage.
[23:23:33] The spirit swordsman steps in front of you and takes the blow!
[23:23:33] The frozen fenrir hits your spirit swordsman for 17 (+2) damage.
[23:23:36] The spirit swordsman steps in front of you and takes the blow!
[23:23:36] The frozen fenrir hits your spirit swordsman for 13 (+1) damage.
[23:23:40] The spirit swordsman steps in front of you and takes the blow!
[23:23:40] The frozen fenrir hits your spirit swordsman for 10 (+1) damage.
[23:23:43] The spirit swordsman steps in front of you and takes the blow!
[23:23:43] The frozen fenrir hits your spirit swordsman for 11 (+1) damage.
[23:23:47] The frozen fenrir hits your torso for 40 (-16) damage!
[23:23:50] The spirit swordsman steps in front of you and takes the blow!
[23:23:50] The frozen fenrir hits your spirit swordsman for 13 (+1) damage.
[23:23:53] The spirit swordsman steps in front of you and takes the blow!
[23:23:53] The frozen fenrir hits your spirit swordsman for 16 (+2) damage.
[23:23:57] The spirit swordsman steps in front of you and takes the blow!
[23:23:57] The frozen fenrir hits your spirit swordsman for 17 (+2) damage.
[23:24:00] The spirit swordsman steps in front of you and takes the blow!
[23:24:00] The frozen fenrir hits your spirit swordsman for 16 (+2) damage.
[23:24:04] The spirit swordsman steps in front of you and takes the blow!
[23:24:04] The frozen fenrir hits your spirit swordsman for 14 (+1) damage.
[23:24:07] The frozen fenrir hits your torso for 45 (-18) damage!
[23:24:10] The frozen fenrir hits your torso for 35 (-13) damage!
[23:24:14] The frozen fenrir hits your torso for 38 (-14) damage!
[23:24:18] The frozen fenrir hits your torso for 44 (-18) damage!
[23:24:21] The spirit swordsman steps in front of you and takes the blow!
[23:24:21] The frozen fenrir hits your spirit swordsman for 17 (+2) damage.
[23:24:24] The frozen fenrir hits your leg for 37 (-14) damage!
[23:24:28] The frozen fenrir hits your arm for 38 (-14) damage!
[23:24:31] The spirit swordsman steps in front of you and takes the blow!
[23:24:31] The frozen fenrir hits your spirit swordsman for 17 (+2) damage.
[23:24:34] The spirit swordsman steps in front of you and takes the blow!
[23:24:34] The frozen fenrir hits your spirit swordsman for 13 (+1) damage.
[23:24:38] The spirit swordsman steps in front of you and takes the blow!
[23:24:38] The frozen fenrir hits your spirit swordsman for 14 (+1) damage.
[23:24:41] The frozen fenrir hits your torso for 41 (-17) damage!
[23:24:45] The spirit swordsman steps in front of you and takes the blow!
[23:24:45] The frozen fenrir hits your spirit swordsman for 12 (+1) damage.
[23:24:48] The spirit swordsman steps in front of you and takes the blow!
[23:24:48] The frozen fenrir hits your spirit swordsman for 14 (+1) damage.
[23:24:52] The spirit swordsman steps in front of you and takes the blow!
[23:24:52] The frozen fenrir hits your spirit swordsman for 12 (+1) damage.
[23:24:55] The spirit swordsman steps in front of you and takes the blow!
[23:24:55] The frozen fenrir hits your spirit swordsman for 14 (+1) damage.
[23:24:58] The spirit swordsman steps in front of you and takes the blow!
[23:24:58] The frozen fenrir hits your spirit swordsman for 16 (+2) damage.
[23:25:02] The spirit swordsman steps in front of you and takes the blow!
[23:25:02] The frozen fenrir hits your spirit swordsman for 18 (+2) damage.
[23:25:06] The spirit swordsman steps in front of you and takes the blow!
[23:25:06] The frozen fenrir hits your spirit swordsman for 16 (+2) damage.
[23:25:09] The spirit swordsman steps in front of you and takes the blow!
[23:25:09] The frozen fenrir hits your spirit swordsman for 11 (+1) damage.
[23:25:12] The spirit swordsman steps in front of you and takes the blow!
[23:25:12] The frozen fenrir hits your spirit swordsman for 16 (+2) damage.
[23:25:15] The spirit swordsman steps in front of you and takes the blow!
[23:25:15] The frozen fenrir hits your spirit swordsman for 16 (+2) damage.
[23:25:19] The frozen fenrir hits your arm for 38 (-14) damage!
[23:25:22] The frozen fenrir hits your torso for 48 (-19) damage!
[23:25:25] The spirit swordsman steps in front of you and takes the blow!
[23:25:26] The frozen fenrir hits your spirit swordsman for 14 (+1) damage.
[23:25:29] The frozen fenrir hits your torso for 42 (-17) damage!
[23:25:33] The spirit swordsman steps in front of you and takes the blow!
[23:25:33] The frozen fenrir hits your spirit swordsman for 18 (+2) damage.
[23:25:36] The spirit swordsman steps in front of you and takes the blow!
[23:25:36] The frozen fenrir hits your spirit swordsman for 12 (+1) damage.
[23:25:39] The spirit swordsman steps in front of you and takes the blow!
[23:25:39] The frozen fenrir hits your spirit swordsman for 17 (+2) damage.
[23:25:43] The spirit swordsman steps in front of you and takes the blow!
[23:25:43] The frozen fenrir hits your spirit swordsman for 17 (+2) damage.
[23:25:46] The spirit swordsman steps in front of you and takes the blow!
[23:25:46] The frozen fenrir hits your spirit swordsman for 18 (+2) damage.


If i havnt miscounted:

48 total number of hits!

34 hits were intercepted!!

EDIT : Whats really odd? The intercepts in a row... nearly impossible :)

I ll do a big test with more then 200 hits and more. That should clear the question about statistics.


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Postby panachier » Oct 01, 2008 02:06

and is lower level with less resists...

or it's 1/3 dammage the caster should take.

or it's 1/3 dammage the pet should take... i hope you do more than 90 dammage on a pet level 44...

i think the dammage is done like caster dammage with a higher AF and absorb ... and maybe resist is done a second time maybe...

at least there is an error somewhere.
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Postby Zippity » Oct 01, 2008 02:29

Well, this is one of a number of things which are extremely problematic to test on uthgard due to the custom chat output strings used by the server as well as the lack of there being parsers that actually record certain data like pet defensive abilities (parry, intercept, etc). I would recommend 1000 hit sample size tests at each version of pet summoned to first determine if intercept rate changes based on pet summon type used.

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Postby Cespx » Oct 01, 2008 09:01

If i remember correctly tank intercept ability works like:

Tank intercept hit and gets CAP dmg that his incercepting target would get. That's why almost nobody uses this ability in rvr.

As we see from logs pet takes ~1/8 of dmg made to the caster which seems to be quite funny.

With this settings SM with pet and good blocker could tank the dragon...

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Postby Rector » Oct 01, 2008 09:09

also on live, tank intercept and pet intercept is not the same.

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