I decided to make stealther killer ranger, so melee ranger. I'm a celt, but I don't know what to pick; piercing or bldes. Piercing will give me diamondback and more WS, cause I get dex point every level and str point every third + my dex/qui buff buffs more than str buff. Still blades hit a bit harder and infis and SBs are resistant to thrust, but SBs are weak to slash and infis are neutral. What should I pick?

slash , cause my scout is weak against thrust ^^ .

if your main target are infis+sb ,maybe slash style would be better , but to be honest without str/const buff ... you have no really chance . not enough WS i think.

maybe thrust with pyro ? i think it s the must to kill assassin-like for you . +15% vs infi AND sb , and your ws is max .

piercing fire legendary weapons

For a Ranger slayer, i would say Piercing all the way...

like was stated above a str/con debuff will kill you alone and make you end up missing 50% of the time lol, when Blade spec.

you will also have a Higher hit rate with Piercing over then Blades so will make up Damage (1/2 Dex ), and finaly DB evade that 5 Sec stun does help :+)

And to Add if you fight Hunters/Infs/SB you will lose some Damage to there Armour types -10% do to that armour being resistant to thrust BUT
Scouts you will get a +10% our alb friends armour Studded is weak to thrust :+)

but scouts are normaly pretty easy to beat (Melee Spec rangers) only Robine has been hard...
only Due to his RR5 tho ^^

<--- Renrick also ^^

Melee rangers tho only start gettign good untill RR3L5+ so make sure you stay in thid before heading out to the Main RvR Zone, or our Alb/Mid infs/SB friends will Pawn ya pretty darn quick :+) (Viper 2+ hurts)

And finaly aye get your self some Heaters and Ice Leg weapons :+) im still lookin tho lol.

Sal :+)

legendary weapons are overrated ... hybrid ranger ftw!!!

and use piercing weapons ^^ oh and you need purge1 i guess its one of the most important ra´s

Dont even think about blades... With infis/sbs def. abilities and very weak pvp styles from blades you wont kill anyone~~

IMO you should go slash. You are right, pierce is weak vs sb and infis, with slash you will have a great dmg vs sb and good vs infi. You won't get the diamondback style, but you got only evade2 and assassins are hard to evade. Also, with high mos, you should be able to sidestun them^

Demiurgo its evade3 :>
And yep pierce isn´t strong vs leather but if you got 99% lege weaps you got => nice dmg vs assasins + after evade stun (and you evade atleast one time in every fight)

Aragorn wrote:Demiurgo its evade3 :>
And yep pierce isn´t strong vs leather but if you got 99% lege weaps you got => nice dmg vs assasins + after evade stun (and you evade atleast one time in every fight)

Leg weapons give 50% element dmg and 50% meele dmg if i remind well, so you will get always a penalty
In many fights i made vs assassin they didn't evade even 1 time, with evade3 it will be even harder

but if ever you get a st/con charge, your st should be higher than your dex, so slash could be a nice choice too...

that depend of lot of things... and the main one is your way to play

he would like to make a stealther killer...

ive seen some RR4 infs/SB/NS kill some RR5 blade/blunt type tanks like they where a little mouse to them.

and reason why the got there Butt Handed to them was becuase they just couldnt Hit back at the assasin type due mainly because of the str/con Debuff. yes you can purge the effect, but if you fight some one that knows how to play there asasin right they should have at least 3 more weapons for back up.

Due the Large Miss rate of Blades after getting a str/con Debuff and lower damage that you will get. i still stay go Piercing you get a over all Higher dex any way. and that debuff pretty much then will only hurt your HP. :+)

Sal

that's cause dex/qui debuff charge is buged... otherway , you can use this charge to debuff your target and the effect is the same. so chosing a dammage type in place of another cause something is bugged is not a good thing to do i think. bugs will be fixed... a day

was more thinkin alone of the lines of our envom str/con Debuff that debuffs for 118ish

Charges normaly only Debuff for only 60ish...

also charges can only be used once a min while debuffs from envom as long as you got the weapons, you got the debuffs :+)

Piercing:

Pros=
* Damage stat/weapon skill is 50% dex, 50% str, you will get more weapon stat and weapon skill.
* Str or Dex debuff will only be 50% effective to your dmg/weapon skill, since its only 50% to your weapon.
* Diamonback
* Thrust dmg is good vs the scout's armor, also good vs mid chain

Cons =
* Thrust isnt good vs infi and shadowblade by 10%.
* Pathfinding buffs are only 50% each to your dmg stat, but you got str and dex buff.
* Buying Aug dex or str isnt as useful since its only 50% effective, but can save by buying str and dex aug.
* Piercing styles are not that great, but for the ranger there isnt much of a choice.


Blades:

Pros=
* 100% off of str, so str buff is 100% effective , same goes from aug str.
* Slash dmg is neutral vs infi and good vs Shadowblade, also good vs hunter. Also neutral vs all albs.
* Fire blade is a nice style chain with the follow up.

Cons=
* As said, ranger get more dex then str when leveling , so you will have less str then you would have for dex/str at 50%.
* PF dex/qui buff has no effect on weapon stat and weapon skill, exept on the bow.
* Blades has a stun style, if they updated the style from block to evade, which last i checked they have not, so dont put much luck in having a stun. But they dont have a bias to archerys .


Id suggest going with piercing, you will have more dmg stat, more weapon skill, your PF buffs have more effect on your dmg, str debuff is only 50% effective, and when it comes to the resist to armor, you can allwes get leg weapons to fix that. I hope they still got the old system, where you can get more then 5% bonus on armor type. At some point, they changed the max resist bonus to the correct dmg type to 5%, which mean if you hit a infi with a heater, you couldnt do the extra 15% dmg, it was only 5% lol. Also if you go blades you may not have a stun.