RA respec

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What would you do with RA respecs?

Make dragon/legion drop more RA respecs
11
25%
Make dragon weaker.
1
2%
Buy RA respec for BPs.
21
48%
I think they're too rare, but have another idea! (write it)
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No votes
Nothing, it's just fine.
11
25%
 
Total votes : 44

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Ranius
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Postby Ranius » Mar 08, 2008 22:09

So uthgard is something like live-like at 1.80. But I heard that dragon on live servers drop 25 RA respecs. Is that true? And also you can't really compare uthgard dragon to live dragon. On live server there are much more ppl online and it's easier to make a dragon raid. Atm to kill a dragon you must really zerg him. First of all, it's hard to find a zerg, and if you actually make a zerg and kill him, what's the chance to get RA respec? Very low. Why does it have to be so hardcore? RA respec is not a stone that teaches you ultimate killing spell, it just resets you RAs!

I don't want flaming, but at least answer on first question.

An idea: RA respec for BPs? Like 10k? For 10k BPs you gotta do some RvR.

And sorry if all this was already explained somewhere else...

edit: hm, poll's name should be: what would you do ABOUT RA respec, not with...what would you WITH sounds better in my lang :D
Last edited by Ranius on Mar 09, 2008 09:31, edited 2 times in total.

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Danny
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Postby Danny » Mar 08, 2008 23:42

Buying RA respecs for BPs seems the most logical to me.

RA respec stones in Mid goes for 20 pts on a DR....
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Postby Demiurgo » Mar 09, 2008 01:07

You make rp and bp in rvr, so it should be correct to allow higher rr player to buy personal ra respec for bp (of course for a lot of bp)
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Hedra
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Postby Hedra » Mar 09, 2008 02:41

Dragon actually drops 25 RA respecs + 25 respec all on live ... so I don't understand why it should drop so few on uthgard ...
Moreover on live you can easily farm ra respec in passage of conflict (rvr dungeon) which is not implemented here ^^
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Postby Luv » Mar 09, 2008 04:14

live servers are designed to support a larger community (i'm not up to date on the current server population) if you'd have the dragon drop 25 of each respec stone the community would be flooded with respec stones and they'd eventually be pretty much worthless (value wise)

anyway, didn't we have this discussion... like 10 times already?

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Postby Holundermann » Mar 09, 2008 11:03

at least double their drop rate... 8 full 8 ra sounds nice.
Same for Legion :P
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Postby DanGer666 » Mar 09, 2008 11:47

so mids kill the dragon with 2 fgs again and then they only have to decide which kind of respec they want? thats stupid.
Realm versus Realm means:
Everybody of some Realm, against everyone of the other Realms..
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Postby poplik » Mar 09, 2008 13:11

oh here goes the alb mentality again: we could gain something, but then mids would gain something too, therefore we don't want it :roll:

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Hedra
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Postby Hedra » Mar 09, 2008 13:12

Why would it be stupid ?

On live dragon could be killed quite easy with less than 3 fg (when I played at least), so everyone left with at least 2 respecs. Then the remaining respecs and drops were rolled.

I don't think it's stupid, but having to make 10 raids to win a respec IS stupid imo.
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Postby DanGer666 » Mar 09, 2008 13:22

this is not live. and i just think that gaining a advantage of this kind is kinda unfair. its unfair allready,but hey..give the dragons more respecs,so some realms kick him twice a day and some realms die even with a zerg on the dragon. thats just alb ment.. i know.. im a stupid alb who has to run in a 5 fg zerg to kill the dragon and i dont deserve to say that this suxx damn hard. specially if metty posts the killlogs of the bossmobs after some other raids @ irc again..if ucant stand critics,just dont read what ive written.
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Postby TheKrokodil » Mar 09, 2008 14:07

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Be nice. :)

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Postby Cespx » Mar 09, 2008 14:13

I know dragondrop has been discussed many times but can anyone give me at least one logical argument why Dragon is "livelike" but its drop not?

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Postby Shakespeare » Mar 09, 2008 14:15

Hedra wrote:Why would it be stupid ?

On live dragon could be killed quite easy with less than 3 fg (when I played at least), so everyone left with at least 2 respecs. Then the remaining respecs and drops were rolled.

I don't think it's stupid, but having to make 10 raids to win a respec IS stupid imo.


Also with 1 fg:
Necro cleric cleric cleric scout scout scout friar

or

Arms cleric cleric cleric scout scout scout pala

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Postby Hedra » Mar 09, 2008 14:41

Nothing
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Postby Ranius » Mar 09, 2008 15:04

What do GMs think about RA respec for BPs? That should make some ppl do more RvR and also atm you can't do much with BPs. I think BPs should become more important, it's some kind of "money" you can only get by RvRing ----> more RvR ----> that's what we want...don't we?

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