Upgrade Cottage to a House & Rent Questions

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Postby CowwoC » Jan 13, 2018 15:55

do i have to take and replace all the stuff i have in my cottage, before i drag the house deed on the existing cottage - so nothing get lost?
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Postby Samirane » Jan 13, 2018 17:53

you can take the vaultchest full + CM (but without money) in your inventory. no need to clean the vaults

but rest, yes ( /housepickup all ) or something like this take all your furniture etc in your inv (do it inside + outside )

make sure that you have some time, untill the next rent is due, otherwise you could loose the house instant, if you are unlucky, and the rent is due in the moment you upgrade it.

i think i didnt forget anything *hopefully*
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Postby CowwoC » Jan 21, 2018 00:38

Samirane wrote:you can take the vaultchest full + CM (but without money) in your inventory. no need to clean the vaults

but rest, yes ( /housepickup all ) or something like this take all your furniture etc in your inv (do it inside + outside )

make sure that you have some time, untill the next rent is due, otherwise you could loose the house instant, if you are unlucky, and the rent is due in the moment you upgrade it.

i think i didnt forget anything *hopefully*


thanks for your reply.

i have another question: you can pay the rent in different ways -> lockbox with max hold of 160g and with your merchant, right?

is there an unlimited amount how much money you can save in your merchant to pay the rent with? i ask becuase if you do /house it says: "Max transfer to account in case of reposession: xxx(amount of money) and i don't understand it. this means if you don't have enough money to pay the rent, this amount you will get back, is that right? but if so, how is that even possible if you can pay the rent with the money from your merchant, how can you lose your house in that case? i mean the amount of that what will transfer to your account rises or drops with the amount of money in your merchant.

maybe someone can enlighten me here. :D

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Postby Samirane » Jan 21, 2018 15:28

good question ;)

this is the reason, why i did not try it out.

On uthgard 1 they removed the "rent taken from CM" to make free the housing lots from old Player, because there was no free lots anymore. With this change, they brought the " "Max transfer to account in case of reposession:"

maybe its only a leftover from Uthgard 1.. i asked this in another thread too, but did not really get an response..

normal there is no limit. if i do /house i get "Your house is save for 311 weeks"


sry i cant really tell you if it do or not. But maybe any other player here already tried it, and let us know.
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Postby CowwoC » Jan 21, 2018 15:43

Hmkay, maybe a GM or Dev can clear this up - please?!

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Postby CowwoC » Jan 22, 2018 19:05

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Postby Genjiro » Jan 22, 2018 20:14

You can still pay rent using your Consignment Merchant and your house lockbox but you will be informed
if not enough gold is in your lockbox even if the rent will be covered by the Consignment Merchant.

This change has been made to give players and guilds a heads up in case someone withdraws money
from the Consignment Merchant and therefore will risk losing the house.

The "Max transfer to account in case of reposession" in /house is the max. amount you can recover
from the Consignment Banker in case you lose your house.
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Postby Samirane » Jan 22, 2018 20:48

Genjiro wrote:
The "Max transfer to account in case of reposession" in /house is the max. amount you can recover
from the Consignment Banker in case you lose your house.


thx for the response, so its like having a 2p/rent house, and in the CM is only 1p?
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Postby CowwoC » Jan 22, 2018 21:59

Genjiro wrote:You can still pay rent using your Consignment Merchant and your house lockbox but you will be informed
if not enough gold is in your lockbox even if the rent will be covered by the Consignment Merchant.

This change has been made to give players and guilds a heads up in case someone withdraws money
from the Consignment Merchant and therefore will risk losing the house.

The "Max transfer to account in case of reposession" in /house is the max. amount you can recover
from the Consignment Banker in case you lose your house.


thank you for your reply, but i still dont understand it because like i said, how can you get back money from the banker, if you pay the rent from the merchant? you wont have any money left in the merchant before you use the house, therefore you cant get any money back from the banker. /shrug

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Postby Genjiro » Jan 22, 2018 23:23

CowwoC wrote:thank you for your reply, but i still dont understand it because like i said, how can you get back money from the banker, if you pay the rent from the merchant? you wont have any money left in the merchant before you use the house, therefore you cant get any money back from the banker. /shrug

If you do not have any gold in your consignement merchant or lockbox to pay rent your house will be repossessed.
In this case you do not get any gold back from the consignment banker.

If you have gold in your consignement merchant but it is not enough to pay rent (inclusing the lockbox)
the stated amount (in /house) will be available to withdraw at the consignment banker.
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Postby Thorberg » Jan 23, 2018 01:02

I made the test on Uthgard2 beta and lost a house with many plats on the CM.

Consignment merchant money is not paying rent on Uthgard. If there is not enough money in your lockbox, you loose yor house, despite the messages (Your house rent is safe for whatever weeks).

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Postby Genjiro » Jan 23, 2018 01:14

Thorberg wrote:I made the test on Uthgard2 beta and lost a house with many plats on the CM.

Consignment merchant money is not paying rent on Uthgard. If there is not enough money in your lockbox, you loose yor house, despite the messages (Your house rent is safe for whatever weeks).

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Please don't spread false information.

Rent is always payed from the house lockbox and the consignment merchant.
You must have enough gold (combined) to successfully pay your rent on time.
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Postby Thorberg » Jan 23, 2018 09:32

I am informing about facts.

During beta I left my house for 6 weeks with 30P on my CM. When I came back the house was gone.

Furthermore "Max transfer to house account in case of repossesion" is wrong. The number in the messages is roughly 50% of the CM's money. In reality of my 30P I could recover only 2P at the house bankers.

Experienced this on Uthgard 2 beta and have not seen any bug fixes in the meantime.

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Postby CowwoC » Jan 23, 2018 20:55

Genjiro wrote:If you do not have any gold in your consignement merchant or lockbox to pay rent your house will be repossessed.
In this case you do not get any gold back from the consignment banker.


I understand that.

Genjiro wrote:If you have gold in your consignement merchant but it is not enough to pay rent (inclusing the lockbox)
the stated amount (in /house) will be available to withdraw at the consignment banker.


But still, i don't understand that entirely. Sure i understand that you will lose your house if you don't have enough money in your lockbox or merchant, but since the amount of money you will get back from the banker - in case you have money in the lockbox or merchant but not enough to pay the rent, is rising or dropping with the amount you have in the merchant. So how is the amount of 'Max transfer' relevant at all?

Example: "Max transfer to account in case of reposession: 1p and 239g" if you have 8p and 260g in the merchant and 60g in the lockbox. The 8p and 260g will drop slowly after each payed rent of 20g pieces and at the same time the amount of "Max transfer to account in case of reposession(1p and 239g)" will also drop if the rent is payed from the merchant. So my point is that the amount is not relevant if the rent is really payed by the merchant - because if so - the merchant gold will be consumed by the rent costs to an almost static amount, like 0,01-19,9g till the rent can't be payed anymore. So you will never get anything back for the banker if all the money from the merchant is consumed for rent. /shrug.

Dunno, but it's confusing for me. :hammer:

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Postby CowwoC » Jan 26, 2018 16:39

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