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Vermillon
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Postby Vermillon » Jun 09, 2016 23:49

The current radius on Uthgard is 1000 for the endurance chant.

Though I have already submitted this miss-function I would also like to address you attention to this matter as it highly effects Albion groups performance in RVR. In addition to that the same issue has been risen from someone else and FALSELY has been marked as INVALID after some users whined about and managed to miss lead the development team. Unless there is an intent to further increase the advantages of the other two realms concerning endurance regeneration, the issue must be resolved according to 1.65 standards.

Just go to official camelotherald > Patch_Notes > Version_1.53 and search for 'paladin' you will immediately see the change to 1500 radius there.
Also I would like to point out that a user managed to miss-lead the developer by pointing to a wayback machine archive site. The indication of the daoc version on that, is at the left of that page, inside "State of the Realm" box. This was live feed information, comparing to static information that displays the paladin spell list can under certain circumstances lead to wrong conclusions.

The reason for giving more value to wayback machine over the official game patch archive wiki escapes me. 8O

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Postby moha » Jun 09, 2016 23:58

Sorry mate, but it was 1000 at this time and got changed to 2000 with 1.83.

here is some proof

here are people talking about the 1000 range at 1.59 patchlevel

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Postby Makish » Jun 10, 2016 00:27

Well OP is rigth about the Patch, i mean you can clearly read em up;

http://camelotherald.wikia.com/wiki/Pat ... rsion_1.53

PALADIN UPDATES

We are making the following updates to Paladins to make them more desirable in RvR, and to generally make them slightly more effective at upgrading their group's overall power and effectiveness.

- All Paladin chants have had their range increased to 1500 (their regeneration chant was at 700).

- The Paladin self armor-factor chant now stacks with other armor factor buffs.

- A new line of endurance regeneration chants have been added to the Paladin. These new chants consume power.

- A new line of stackable resistance buffs have been added to the Paladin. These new chants stack with the resistance buffs of other classes and consume power.

The new spells (all take power at every pulse):

- Endurance Regeneration line
2 Chant of Endurance
12 Chant of Stamina
22 Chant of Persistence
32 Chant of Resilience
42 Chant of Perseverance

- Resistance to Heat/Cold/Matter, stacks with single element buffs:
27 Elemental Ward
46 Elemental Shield

- Resistance to Body/Spirit/Energy, stacks with single element buffs:
25 Soul Ward
44 Soul Shield


http://camelotherald.wikia.com/wiki/Pat ... rsion_1.83

1.83 further increased em to 2000 and gave em Cele + other Stuff

Paladin

 - The Paladin's endurance chant range has been increased to 2000 units.

 - The range of the Paladin's taunt spell has been increased to 1500 units and is now on a 10 second recast timer.

 - The Paladin's resurrection spell, Revive, will now bring a player back to life with 25% health and 25% power.

 - The following chants have been added to the Paladin's Chant line:

 30 Barrier of Faith: 0 second cast/6 seconds/pulse/8 second recast, 1500 unit range, 25 Magical Ablative, Group buff.
 40 Barrier of Virtue:0 second cast/6 seconds/pulse/8 second recast, 1500 unit range, 40 Magical Ablative, Group buff.
 50 Barrier of Temperance:0 second cast/6 seconds/pulse/8 second recast, 1500 unit range, 70 Magical Ablative, Group buff.

 18 Celerity: 0 second cast/5 seconds/pulse/8 second recast, 350 unit range, Haste 24%, Group buff.
 26 Enhanced Celerity: 0 second cast/5 seconds/pulse/8 second recast, 350 unit range, Haste 28%, Group buff.
 32 Amplified Celerity: 0 second cast/5 seconds/pulse/8 second recast, 350 unit range, Haste 31% , Group buff.
 44 Pure Celerity: 0 second cast/5 seconds/pulse/8 second recast, 350 unit range, Haste 37%, Group buff.

 - A new Self only Strength buff has been granted to Paladins in their Chant line in the following manner:

 3: Righteous Strength +17 Strength, 20 minute duration, 3 power
 7: Righteous Potency +20 Strength, 20 minute duration, 6 power
 14: Righteous Power +26 Strength, 20 minute duration, 11 power
 20: Virtuous Strength +31 Strength, 20 minute duration, 16 power
 30: Virtuous Potency +39 Strength, 20 minute duration, 25 power
 41: Virtuous Power +47 Strength, 20 minute duration, 33 power
 50: Virtuous Might +55 Strength, 20 minute duration, 43 power
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Postby Vermillon » Jun 10, 2016 01:23

moha wrote:Sorry mate, but it was 1000 at this time and got changed to 2000 with 1.83.

wayback machine site

IGN



1. wayback machine vs official camelot herald and you pick wayback machine as more valid. ok...
2. IGN thread doesn't mention patch version unless I've missed it. Also is dated Feb 2003 hence I doubt 1.53 was out.

1.83 changed it from 1500 to 2000 not from 1000 to 2000.

Dont confuse 1.83 with 1.53

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Postby Vermillon » Jun 10, 2016 01:27

Makish wrote:Well OP is rigth about the Patch, i mean you can clearly read em up;

....snip.....



Very well said.

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Postby Poyed » Jun 10, 2016 08:56

Agree with that as i said a lot of time

Reponened an issue, far too important for rvr to be missed.

Issue 1546

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Postby Nezix » Jun 10, 2016 15:27

Why does this keep coming up?

It's really obvious: In 1.53 the Paladin chants they already had were increased to 1500 range. They were also given a new endurance chant. That does not mean that the new endurance chant was also 1500 range.

1. wayback machine vs official camelot herald and you pick wayback machine as more valid. ok...


You think Wayback is like someone re-writing old stuff? It's literally a snapshot of websites from different times. It has nothing to do with DAoC, you can use it to look at anything it might have captured. It clearly shows the herald displaying the range as 1000 back in 1.65 and until 1.83.

The strongest evidence of all is the Team Lead report of 1.62:
http://web.archive.org/web/20040329055353/http://vnboards.ign.com/DAoC_TL_Reports/b22181/52886564/?0
Some of most basic issues with the Chants line include the shorter range of the endurance chant, we would like it bumped up to the same range as our other chants, meaning 1500.


That is not some rando on a forum complaining about something they don't understand, it's the class team lead.

Unlike the 1.53 patch note, there is no ambiguity to that statement. He clearly says its not 1500 range and they would like it to be 1500 range.

I want Paladins to be more useful as much as the next Alb but it's not going to happen this way.
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Postby GreenP » Jun 10, 2016 15:49

Is there 1 person spamming bugtracker with 3 or even more accounts ?
/me ponders

Even with 1500 range paladins will have a very hard time.
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Postby moha » Jun 10, 2016 15:54

Vermillon wrote:
moha wrote:Sorry mate, but it was 1000 at this time and got changed to 2000 with 1.83.

wayback machine site

IGN



1. wayback machine vs official camelot herald and you pick wayback machine as more valid. ok...
2. IGN thread doesn't mention patch version unless I've missed it. Also is dated Feb 2003 hence I doubt 1.53 was out.

1.83 changed it from 1500 to 2000 not from 1000 to 2000.

Dont confuse 1.83 with 1.53


1.53 increased the range of all previous chants to 1500, while the new endu chant had 1000 range. Every charplaner, spell library or Team Lead report from that time lists it with 1000 range.

Here you can see old patchnotes and the exact date the patch was introduced. The IGN discussion is from Feb 12, 2003 so it's clearly at 1.59 patchlevel, after your allegedly increase to 1500 with 1.53.


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