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Postby Methusalem » Mar 14, 2013 19:59

based by a ingame discuss yesterday i am not longer sure how it works on uth atm.

is there a castspeedcap of 50% and 1.5sec minimum or other values ?
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Postby Jezzmin » Mar 14, 2013 20:33

Methusalem wrote:based by a ingame discuss yesterday i am not longer sure how it works on uth atm.

is there a castspeedcap of 50% and 1.5sec minimum or other values ?


imho this question should be in the support forum...no research issue given yet :)

and no, i dunno :D
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Postby Abydos » Mar 15, 2013 00:02

It should not be possible to reach the cast speed cap without +overcap on uthgard, even with max ra and 18 start stats, AFAIK

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Postby wla » Mar 15, 2013 10:21

Abydos wrote:It should not be possible to reach the cast speed cap without +overcap on uthgard, even with max ra and 18 start stats, AFAIK

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correct - without toa boni ur not gonna reach the cap anyways
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Postby Jezzmin » Mar 15, 2013 10:31

even for resistance debuffs? they cast extremely fast...fully buffed by an average cleric my caby has 331 dex and it feels like casting every second...it's 2s cast time and i'm pretty sure i come very close to 1.5s then :)
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Postby Abydos » Mar 15, 2013 11:12

Below are the points where spells get faster.
http://www.postcount.net/forum/showthre ... eak-points
Breaking points:
2.0s ---> 392 dex, 344 dex, 337 dex
2.1s ---> 356 dex, 354 dex, 308 dex
2.2s ---> 374 dex, 368 dex, 320 dex
2.3s ---> 386 dex, 380 dex, 332 dex
2.4s ---> 392 dex, 350 dex, 308 dex
2.5s ---> 362 dex, 319 dex
2.6s ---> 374 dex, 332 dex
2.7s ---> 386 dex, 344 dex
2.8s ---> 392 dex, 356 dex, 320 dex
2.9s ---> 368 dex, 362 dex, 332 dex
3.0s ---> 374 dex, 338 dex
3.5s ---> 356 dex, 326 dex

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Postby Jezzmin » Mar 15, 2013 11:22

is it the same way on uthgard?

blue has stated several times, that uthgard calculations use better rounding mechanisms and "more" floating point numbers...i'm pretty sure that these, obviously rather random, values only occur due to rounding issues on mythic's side :)

edit: i just noticed, that the link you provided proves, that 1.5s cast cap doesn't exist...the guy did 100 casts for most his tests and the spells that have about 2s cast speed were done in 100-120 secs even with lower dex (305-320 or something)...100 casts in 120 secs implies a cast speed of around 1.2s...why's that? i thought 1.5s was CAP
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Postby Abydos » Mar 15, 2013 11:36

1.5 for melee. I was able to cast 2.0s while moving when TOA came out with +50 dex, 20% cast speed and some mastery of the art :)

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Postby Jezzmin » Mar 15, 2013 12:08

so...how does it work on uth? are these breaking points imeplemented or not? would be interesting..i usually end up with 331 dex when buffed...if cast speed is significantly faster for 2.0 spells at 337 dex augdex3 might make sense...in a way...though i'd never spec it with my current spec :)
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Postby Samirane » Mar 15, 2013 12:47

Blue wrote: http://uthgard.net/de/forum/viewtopic.php?f=60&t=28483&p=272621&hilit=250#p272621

would be really nice to know which kind is it now on uthgard..

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Postby Akip » Mar 15, 2013 14:09

i can just imagine that the formula works like that, each dex point matters, but some matter more than others.
each point in dex will have a little role in between the breaking points, but just a minor one.
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Postby pweet » Mar 15, 2013 14:33

i checked breaking points when i started here didnt find any and blue already stated that there are none here

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Postby Jezzmin » Mar 15, 2013 15:21

pweet wrote:i checked breaking points when i started here didnt find any and blue already stated that there are none here


the question is why abydos is trying to confuse us with breaking points then...i only know this behaviour from several users here, that try to spread their knowledge without knowing whether the "knowledge" applies for uthgard too :)
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Postby Abydos » Mar 15, 2013 19:03

Im not trying to confuse you. If it isnt the same you can assum eit is a bug.

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Postby HulkGris » Mar 15, 2013 19:18

Abydos wrote:Im not trying to confuse you. If it isnt the same you can assum eit is a bug.

But you cut the quote of your source :

I HAD 10% CAST SPEED DURING THE WHOLE TEST

Breaking points:
2.0s ---> 392 dex, 344 dex, 337 dex
2.1s ---> 356 dex, 354 dex, 308 dex
2.2s ---> 374 dex, 368 dex, 320 dex
2.3s ---> 386 dex, 380 dex, 332 dex
2.4s ---> 392 dex, 350 dex, 308 dex
2.5s ---> 362 dex, 319 dex
2.6s ---> 374 dex, 332 dex
2.7s ---> 386 dex, 344 dex
2.8s ---> 392 dex, 356 dex, 320 dex
2.9s ---> 368 dex, 362 dex, 332 dex
3.0s ---> 374 dex, 338 dex
3.5s ---> 356 dex, 326 dex

So this breakpoint are irrelevant
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