Uthgard Behaviour:

When a level 50 uses a nondamaging spell on a lvl 5 Monster the Level 5 character killing the Monster receives no experience.
Spel: Debuff, Mezz, Root, Disease or similar.

Live Behaviour:

The Experience Leeched depends on the actual Damage / Heal Values one has contributed to the fight, renderering nondamaging spells not leeching experience.

Example: A level 50 pulls a lvl 8 mob out of a thick spawn of aggressives so the lvl 8 not capable of range pulling can conveniently engage and receive 100% experience.

Yeah ive noticed that bug. but seeing as they hate PLing, I assumed its not worth the time to post. consider it a custom change to enhance the pve grind experience

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Some specific behavior includes.

1) stunning a mob for an ally (e.g. to allow them additional casts/shots before the mob gets to them) shouldnt hurt exp per live. but on uthgard will result in zero exp.

2) pulling a grey mob and even letting it attack you shouldnt hurt exp UNLESS IT HITS YOU or YOU DMG IT per live. i used to help out lowbies on my pally by taunting mobs for them so they could style away without getting hit. on uthgard this will result in zero exp. note that on live the loot would go to the player with aggro (e.g. the pally), whereas on uthgard the loot would go to the player doing the most dmg (i.e. the grey con).

Blue hates PLing with the fury of a thousand white hot suns so I doubt this will ever be changed.

Austerim wrote:Blue hates PLing with the fury of a thousand white hot suns so I doubt this will ever be changed.

Is not a white dwarf actually colder than the sun, and rather lackign in the fury department as it is just a cooling ball of hot iron?
then again i suppose a thousand of them would still be pretty destructive.

here is a link to the forum where this has been reported with videos alread albeit on german the videos proof my point

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No, what we need is, that after u got your first lvl 50, your new toon after speaking to trainer
Gets insta 20. Thats how I remember how it was, dunno patchlevel.

Stormus wrote:No, what we need is, that after u got your first lvl 50, your new toon after speaking to trainer
Gets insta 20. Thats how I remember how it was, dunno patchlevel.

I lol'ed.

Stormus wrote:No, what we need is, that after u got your first lvl 50, your new toon after speaking to trainer
Gets insta 20. Thats how I remember how it was, dunno patchlevel.

That is one of the things that destroyed lower lvl PvE on live servers and certainly did not help to attract new players. They made PvE a lot easier in subsequent patches, but that is not an option on Uthgard, so you will never ever see a /level 20 command.

well if we are actually going to be emulating 1.69 before we consider custom changes then /level should be included.

ragardless of the fact that you dont like easy pve.

it should also include the correct battle grounds and siege warfare.

/level is one of the major mistakes Mythic did and when Uthgard was founded this was one of the points we definitely took out right from the start. This will not come as long as Uthgard exists.

I dont know if it a bug or intended.

if a mob gets aggro on yourself with a bodypull, and u dont even debuff/hit/miss/cast/touch this mob you will get some xp(very less) for no work.

so maybe there is another bug. if a high lvl takes the aggro without attacking, the lowbie kill and but dont get any xp point

Magicco wrote:I dont know if it a bug or intended.

if a mob gets aggro on yourself with a bodypull, and u dont even debuff/hit/miss/cast/touch this mob you will get some xp(very less) for no work.

so maybe there is another bug. if a high lvl takes the aggro without attacking, the lowbie kill and but dont get any xp point

Mob aggroed (got aggro) on the high level char. Aggro is converted to xp share. Could be a bug but requires live test. Important: grey mobs don't aggro. So its impossible that the high char gets aggro and the low ones don't get XP.

I reported this bug also..i have to check the posts in archive , i was lvl 20 merc kiling plateds up in df..and when mob was half hp a fg of hibs came and their druid was rooting my mob..after i kiled the mob i got 0 ZERO XP! . Like Ensisferum said, DMG or Heal are the only spels that will get rewarded with xp Blue, CC spels get rps ..but thats PvP not PvE . I killed 6 plateds that day and the hib was spaming root on each of them so i ll get no xp..that is a bug, either way you put it. And no .. root mezz and all the other CC spells got rewarded with RPS in that NF patch because Sorcs and clerics were DD ing instead of healing and mezzing..while all the others were geting xp..

Ensis help me find the patch where CC spels done on enemy are worth rps..

You shouldnt get any xp as you got help from too high players. I know its different on live but I'm quite sure its not intended in the original game design.

i should be allowed free 50's