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Postby Force » Jun 14, 2011 01:46

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Chanter's dex here was like 200.

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Postby azurath » Jun 15, 2011 18:05

that was your pet's cast. lol wut?

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Postby Blue » Jun 15, 2011 18:47

And the problem is?
It's done when it's done. Thanks for your patience.
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Postby Force » Jun 16, 2011 00:04

azurath wrote:that was your pet's cast. lol wut?




lol wut? no it wasn't.


"You cast prismatic strobe" <- that's a baseline 9 second stun

http://www.camelotherald.com/spells/spe ... sp_id=2702


Blue wrote:And the problem is?




On live you cant just keep casting while being attacked, they have an "interrupt code" that keeps you from doing such things unless you cast Mastery of Concentration or use quickcast. The only reason I have this screenshot is because I fat fingered quickcast after I started casting so it didn't trigger.

On LIVE that would have meant I stayed in interruption, but on UTHGARD screwing up can actually give you RPS!

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Postby Blue » Jun 16, 2011 00:19

Force wrote:On live you cant just keep casting while being attacked, they have an "interrupt code" that keeps you from doing such things unless you cast Mastery of Concentration or use quickcast.

Did you check on Pendra? I dont see the problem yet. You can start a cast on live too in combat but you will be interrupted in the middle like on Uthgard.
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Pala says, "i am disabled. and i have a mechanic left hand that can be programed. its hard to play woith one hand"

[Appeal] Bxxxxxxxx: "why is RA first aid cann man i stealth use and not unstealth cann man ra if man use unstealth ?????????"
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Postby Screw » Jun 16, 2011 01:30

From what I'm seeing, I think one issue is that after the third attack by the hunter in the screenshot, his interrupt timer after his first cast should increase to the full 3 seconds or whatever. In this case, it is not. It stays at 2 seconds.

Also, after his second cast of Prismatic Strobe, and while he is being attacked, he is able to cast without any interruption. I do think that if a majority of the cast time has been completed and then you are hit, the spell will still go off. But I can't tell precisely how long it has been by just that screenshot, so that may or may not be the case here. It is a rather odd occurrence though. It's difficult to determine with this single incident. Some more testing would be needed.

Excellent chanter name, by the way.

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Postby Akip » Jun 16, 2011 01:31

azurath wrote:that was your pet's cast. lol wut?


+1

( your pet hits xxx for xxx dmg)
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Postby Force » Jun 16, 2011 03:06

Akip wrote:
azurath wrote:that was your pet's cast. lol wut?


+1

( your pet hits xxx for xxx dmg)




did you two even look at the entire pic?

What does a pet's spell hitting a hunter AFTER he has already shot me multiple times, and AFTER I have free casted through what should have been interupption have to do with anything?


The spell that free casts is the hib caster baseline 9 second stun, the enchanter pet can not cast that. the stun spell lands before the pet's snareDD lands. it has nothing to do with what is being discussed.

the pet spell is a non sequitor to the chanter being interrupted in this picture.


Blue wrote:Did you check on Pendra? I dont see the problem yet. You can start a cast on live too in combat but you will be interrupted in the middle like on Uthgard.




You have never been able to start casting while being attacked on live and complete that cast while still being attacked repeatedly. being attacked on live has always caused the interrupt timer. the only way you can cast without worrying about interrupt timer is when you quick cast or use mastery of concentration. free shards have lacked this component since at least when I started playing them right around the time NF went live. Uthgards is closer to live, but this pic shows at least some of the ways its still off.


Screw wrote:From what I'm seeing, I think one issue is that after the third attack by the hunter in the screenshot, his interrupt timer after his first cast should increase to the full 3 seconds or whatever. In this case, it is not. It stays at 2 seconds.

Also, after his second cast of Prismatic Strobe, and while he is being attacked, he is able to cast without any interruption. I do think that if a majority of the cast time has been completed and then you are hit, the spell will still go off. But I can't tell precisely how long it has been by just that screenshot, so that may or may not be the case here. It is a rather odd occurrence though. It's difficult to determine with this single incident. Some more testing would be needed.

Excellent chanter name, by the way.




This is correct. When the hunter attacked me after the initial interrupt, my interrupt timer should have extended, making the point at which I could start a successful cast be farther out, meaning the next arrows from the hunter would've been well within the needed time to keep me in interrupt.

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Postby Luydor » Jun 16, 2011 09:30

Heho,

I think you can see the different here 1:05:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0GEaoBCLPM&NR=1

On Uthgard:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=od0IFS51GdI

On Uthgard you only get a rupttimer if you get rupt and nearly instantly try to cast again. If you wait like 1 secound you don't get a rupttimer.

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Postby Akip » Jun 16, 2011 10:16

its a bg...

what was your attacker's level? you are 49 or?
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Postby Blue » Jun 16, 2011 11:06

Force wrote:You have never been able to start casting while being attacked on live

I will check that on live today, if you dont want to provide live logs to proof that statement. Im sure that I always was able to start the cast when the interrupt timer expired. No matter of being attacked.

The COMPLETION of the cast is a different story. But we talk about starting the cast at all, dont we?

I have to ask again, is your problem
a) the interrupt chance
b) starting of cast sequence while being attacked
?
It's done when it's done. Thanks for your patience.
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[Appeal] Bxxxxxxxx: "why is RA first aid cann man i stealth use and not unstealth cann man ra if man use unstealth ?????????"
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Postby Force » Jun 17, 2011 00:38

Blue wrote:I will check that on live today, if you dont want to provide live logs to proof that statement. Im sure that I always was able to start the cast when the interrupt timer expired. No matter of being attacked.


Being attacked should keep the timer up. The interrupt timer should not be able to expire if you are still being hit. You should be able to start a cast animation in this circumstance, but it should be reset, and another 'you must wait XXX to cast' should happen. The cast prevention timer doesn't stay up permanently, but rather should kind of cycle with cast animation resets.


In fact, on live 1 interrupt is enough to see the cycle. If you spam cast after being interrupted you should see a cast reset, a countdown timer preventing cast, and if you started spamming cast early enough, another cast reset and countdown.








Blue wrote:The COMPLETION of the cast is a different story. But we talk about starting the cast at all, dont we?


I am talking about starting a cast animation that will NOT be reset. You can start a cast animation as soon as the cast prevention timer drops, but if you've been attacked recently enough your cast animation will reset again and a new timer will start.


Blue wrote:"I have to ask again, is your problem
a) the interrupt chance
b) starting of cast sequence while being attacked
?"


The problem is that attacks that should be causing interruption of future casts (within the required interrupt time) are not doing so if they occur while a 'cast prevention timer' is already ticking down (at least that is what it looks like to me).

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Postby Jezzmin » Jun 17, 2011 07:28

the problem is, that in the screenshot u dont see whether the hunter stopped attacking right before the stun got off...maybe he ran somewhere for 1 or 2s or accidently strafed so he didnt shoot...and thus his last dmg (between starting the stun and actually casting it) might as well have been near the end of the cast and thus not interrupt it...without chatlog its impossible to check whether this really is a bug or just caster-luck ;)

from my solo-caba-experience in BGs and end rvr i can tell that interrupt-code is pretty live like (from what i remember as live like :P )...never really noticed such glitches as u just posted so i guess there's something else that enabled u casting ;)...

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Postby Force » Jun 17, 2011 09:24

You actually can tell that he didn't stop shooting me because of the time stamps on the cast prevention timer.

I am spamming cast, so you are able to see the timer tick down, me take dmg, and the timer not extend.

There used to be no interrupt timer on uthgard at all, and it seems most people thought that was working fine too.

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Postby ghostnappa » Jun 17, 2011 09:37

today i face something similar. im a hunter and i was attacking a enchanter. i jump him melee with my spear. pop my hunter avatar(blue con pet to me) the enchanter use the quickcast to stun me then simply cast 3 pbae and kill me and my dog. i was stun obviously but my pet was attacking him and nothing was interupting him. :(

i played hunter has a main class on live since OF till NF and there is no way a caster will cast free like this with my pet on him :(

even when we didnt get the insta pet and i was stuck using a green Torc at 50 the caster couldnt cast like this with the pet hitting him. something is wrong for sure :(

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