New test from pendragon .

TEST 1


Atacker
Celt hero lvl 50 rr 13 having 48+ 19 Large weaponry spec( 7 lw skil is from items , 12 lw skil is from ra) 202 str,135 quic using LW weapon artefact 5.6 spd 100% qual/cond , WS 1336

Target
Blademaster lvl 50 with lvl 51 armours artefacts all 100% qual cond rr5+ having 606 AF.(rr5+)

Min dmg= 178(-39) total 217 dmg
Max dmg= 246(54) total 300 dmg

Variance of dmg = 38.9%
Cap dmg= 429



This log will show the dmg done using LW 48+19 skill, and 1+15 blunt (which doesnt matter anyway) .

Log to downl : http://www.mediafire.com/?hthhwiymm0x



PS Your weaponskill should be 1356 on uthgard at those stats/skills Toblerone. ( 202 str, 50skill + 6 RA skilll+11 item skill)

skil factor = 75
base weap factor=774.4
W skill= 774.4 x 1 x (1+0.01 x 75)
Wskill= 1355.2


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TEST 2

The weapon i used in this earlier test was a LW blunt dmg 5.6 spd, now i will use a Celtic spear spd 5.4 same as Toblerone's , so we can have a viable dmg comparation.

Atacker
Celt hero with 1360 WS , using 100% qual /cond spear 5.4 spd

Target
Blademaster fully dresed with Mps 606 AF(rr5+)

Min dmg 213
Max dmg 297
Variation= 39.43%

When using 100% qual ,99% cond seapr 5.4

Min dmg 211
Max dmg 294

Toblerone will have to remake the test because we had few hits to compare, but from what we can see he had
min dmg=114
max dmg=266
Variation = 133%

Note: Weapons have decimals on speed which we canot see, so a weapon could be 5.490 spd or 5.410 spd ..still we can have an ideea about how much the dmg should be.

Logs to downl : http://www.mediafire.com/?z3ymgqzwjwt


Conclusion:
The blades,pierce and blunt skill of the Hero are 1+15 skill , i think that 2h dmg in hib is implemented same as on alb, requiering blades,blunt,pierce to be 50 composite skill so you can have lowest variance of 40% , which is wrong because on hib LW and Celtic spear spec is enough.

Also, i did min dmg 213,max dmg 297 with 5.4 spd weapon 100% qual/cond on pendragon , Toblerone with 99% qual weapon should hit for a bit less dmg then that considering he used same 5.4 spd with diferent decimals maybe that we cannot see.

Does the target dont have any procs like Guardian of Valor oder additional af bonus?

The artefacts are all lvl 0......

Lol at hitting for 94 damage. 2h damage is fineeeeeeeeeeee.

i'm no expert, but the variance seems huge

94-219 damage - that just doesnt seem right unstyled

I l lhave a look when i have time, plz dont do styled hits..they dont help..1 is enough base dmg we need to look at it. Plz post toblerone ur stats weap used armour of the target etc all.

I made a copy of ur hero on Pendragon with the info u gave meand you should have lower str, like 198 str:P u have augm str here? and what weap r u using..5.5 99% qual ?

5.4 speed 99% quality 100% con weapon. Target was BM with 595 AF. My stats you can see on the screenshot.

Hit BM from his back next time, u dont have to stay to his face so he can pary , u have augm str1? And dont do styles , they dont help me at all, and you could kill him 3 times at least unstyled so we can see what min and max dmg u make.


Celt with +18 str 1 dex, +75 to all stats with gear, 5.5 99% qual weapon, 50+17 LW.

I asked you 4 times what do u mean by that? and i figured out u ve put 18 to str on creation and 1 to dext , but u end up having 198 str..

Yes aug str 1.

So this is a 5.4 spd weapon aye? cause u said 5.5 when u Pm ed me. The 99 dmg is done with 2h er same as others? hmm i think i have an ideea why ur dmg has such variance. Also Celtic Fury style had 41.79 style growth for your 5.4 spd 2h er and 135 quic , should have been biiger abit..i had 42% style growth with 5.6 spd weapon..higher the delay..lower the style dmg.



Btw plz tell me ur blades,blunt pierce composite skil when u stay 2h .
I have to remake ur hero because that acc is closed..and i think i can find 5.4 spd weap .

Plz redo hits vs him so we can have 50 hits 2h , that way i can see min and max, and dont do more then 1 style with Celtic fury, also hit a lvl 2 mob unstyled and tell ur dmg cap on this 2h also .

Maybe Blue will have a look at it.

He also hit on a bm with 595 AF and not all parts were 100%quality and 100% condition.

If bm is rr5+ and he has displayed 595 AF, he has more when to hit purposes,just that its not shown , on pendragon is 606 AF for rr5+ so u get 11 more AF , you have it here also, its just a display bug, Blue said so.

I told toblerone to find a BM With Qual/cond 100% armours, resist dont matter , we look at the whole dmg.

@ Toblerone : You re sure u were not res sicknes when u did 1st 4 hits in that log u ve posted?

The variance is an indication that the Large Weapon spec was not used in this case but its still too high. What we don't see is which armor part was hit and in what condition it was.

114-266 damage shouldnt be possible under any circumstances beside the variance of targets armor. Normal variance is 75%-125% at spec 1. If this is reproducable /callgm to catch me online.

Blue wrote:The variance is an indication that the Large Weapon spec was not used in this case but its still too high. What we don't see is which armor part was hit and in what condition it was.

114-266 damage shouldnt be possible under any circumstances beside the variance of targets armor. Normal variance is 75%-125% at spec 1. If this is reproducable /callgm to catch me online.

I think he was res sick when he did 1st 4 hits, i se 1st hit miss miss and 4 th hit again , after that all the hits are on normal parameters. I asked Toblerone to remake the test so we can see dmg variation. The target's armours who is a BM should be 95% condition i guess..we ll have to see.

Blue i hope Large weaponry and Celtic spear work here same as on live..which means u dont have to spec blades,pierce,blunt to keep variance at 40% , and that specing LW and Celt spear reduces variance also.