If I was to auto train up to level 40, and then respec, would I still have the autotraining points?

Easy question, easy answere: Yes. Autotrain is not affectet by respecs.

hmmm if you respec all you should loose your autotrain points... it should be but i dont know how it works here.

you have to respec one line it would be better

I made a full respec with Drazahr and i didn´t lose my autotrain-points

could a gm tell me if it s right? i wouldnt have to respec and loose my autotrain...

it's actually very simple, if you respec your speclvl in an autotrain specline will never go below the autospec, this means that if you manually trained an autospec line you wil actually loose the points spent.

to give a small example with my own class:
if i want to autotrain slash i wont put any points in it, thus i should spec in a different weapon type, but if i spec in thrust instead it would be useless, since thrust is autotrain as well and you wont gain any profit from respeccing, you will loose the points you spent in thrust up untill the autotrain lvl.
pre-respec example:
slash: 5 (autotrain)
thrust: 20 (trained)
crush: 1 (no autotrain)
respec, no points spent:
slash: 5 (autotrain)
thrust: 5 (autotrain lvl, manually trained)
crush: 1 (no autotrain)
number of specpoints gained: 195
other pre-respec example:
slash: 5 (autotrain)
thrust: 5 (autotrain)
crush: 20 (trained)
respec, no points spent:
slash: 5 (autotrain)
thrust: 5 (autotrain)
crush: 1
number of specpoints gained: 210

i hope i made it clear, i tend to make things more complicated than they really are, basically, if you train an autotrain line, you will loose the specpoints you used because your skill wil never go below autotrain.

hmmm oki thx for the explain i thought with autotrain points were lost

slash: 5 (autotrain)
thrust: 20 (trained)
crush: 1 (no autotrain)
respec, no points spent:
slash: 5 (autotrain)
thrust: 5 (autotrain lvl, manually trained)
crush: 1 (no autotrain)

NOT TRUE!!

lets say u CAN auto s/t/c

then u spec thrust and auto so u get:
slash: 5 (autotrain)
thrust: 20 (trained)
crush: 5 (autotrain)
respec, no points spent:
slash: 5 (autotrain)
thrust: 1 (no autotrain points because u trained into it)
crush: 5 (autotrain)


u only get autotrained points when u actually autotrain

thats the whole idea about autotraining..

if u could just spec in a thing and then respec to get autopoints..

then autotraining would be pointless..

sorry..

but had to clear this out!

dont think i can follow your arguement here, but i'll give it a go,

the thing i understood from your post:

if my class can autotrain in something, but i choose not to, then if i respec that line i'm back to 1 point in that line?

what i was trying to say:
when you respec your spec in a line that can autotrain will never go below what it would be if you did, but you will NOT regain those points

very simply put: i train thrust to 3 and autotrain lvl is 2 so if i respec, my thrust drops to 2 and i only get the points back i spent going from 2 to 3, thus actually loosing the 2 points i spent training from 1 to 2.

So how works autotrain.

Each 4 level, starting at level 8, your master(trainer) give you 1 free points in the skill able to be autotrained. And that until level 48.

First point (and exemple).

You can autotrain a skill called skill01, if you haven't put any pointhere until level 48, you will have 12 in skill01 (earned 77 free spec points).
Now let's say you have put some points to go for 3 before level 8, and can't respec.
Autotrain will start at level 16 you will finally gain at level 48 still 12 but only 72 free spec points.

Right ?

Here a table

level 4 - nothing (already at 1)
level 8 - 2 (2 spec points free)
level 12 - 3 (3 sp)
level 16 - 4 (4sp)
level 20 - 5 (5sp)
level 24 - 6 (6sp)
level 28 - 7 (7sp)
level 32 - 8
level 36 - 9
level 40 - 10
level 44 - 11
level 48 - 12
(there is no level 52)

Secont point, do i loose point while respeccing autotrained skill.

As far as i know, you can respec an autotrained spec line (let's say 8 to 48) you won't loose your 77 free spec points.
Why i think that, simply because most of stealthers are used to respec at nearly all realm rank (for having the best template fiting this rr).

I'm possibly wrong, the best thing would be to have a link from a mythic tutorial about respec or from TL in vnboard, i'm personnaly to lazy to make such search. Or you can simly level a char with some autotrain skill to level 20 and respec this same previously autotrained line, and see what happen.

Sincerly,

Pirith.

if my class can autotrain in something, but i choose not to, then if i respec that line i'm back to 1 point in that line?

yes

very simply put: i train thrust to 3 and autotrain lvl is 2 so if i respec, my thrust drops to 2 and i only get the points back i spent going from 2 to 3, thus actually loosing the 2 points i spent training from 1 to 2.

no

u train thrust to 3 and auto lvl is 2 at lvl 8.. then u respec.. thrust will drop to 1 since u havent autotrained in it..

new thing

u train thrust to 3 and respec at lvl 7.. then respec.. ding 8.. then thrust will auto to 2..

(last one is only what i think.. not sure how it works IG)

where are ppl getting this information? i've played retail for 3 years and respeccing never made an autotrain line go beneath the autotrain lvl, NEVER, even if you manually trained it.

I agree with Luv ^^

You won't loose the autotrained points when you'll respec. It'll be worthless to autotrain so...

A reaver autotrain in slash and flexible, I want to autotrain. So I spec in thrust all the way to 48.

I have

Thrust 48
Slash 12
Flexible 12

I respec Thrust because I want to play flexible.

THrust 1
Slash 12
Flexible 12

I put my points in Flexible...

THrust 1
Flexible 48
Slash 12

Check it out it works like that. When you respec you won't loose the points given by your trainer as a gift.

Secondly Pirith, as soon as you've spent some points in a line that can autotrain, you lose it. You won't get the autotrain anymore.

Garoux is right.

The points stay in the line that was autotrained, even if you do a full respec.
You cannot put them elsewhere.
You also dont lose them, you just cant take those points and put them in other lines, they will stay in the autotrained line forever.

you can "lose" some points however, thats when you train in an autotrain line and respec to one which you do not have autotrain in. If you respec at lvl50 you'll then "lose" 77 points cause they stay in the autotrain-line.

So, one suggestion: Plan ahead