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Wild Power and Wild Healing (HoT&Proc)

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BlackCougar Eagle Knight Posts: 589 Joined: Dec 30, 2008 01:00	Reply with quote by BlackCougar » Sep 14, 2009 22:23 i have been serching for a while now and after filtering though about 400 pages of web and various forums, apparently this question has never been asked before(or i didnt find it yet): Does Wild Healing (grants crits on healing spells) has an affect on Heal over Time spells? specificly, the mana menta hots. Last edited by BlackCougar on Sep 15, 2009 18:51, edited 1 time in total.

nixian Forum Moderator Posts: 5450 Joined: May 19, 2006 00:00	Reply with quote by nixian » Sep 14, 2009 22:31 I am pretty sure it doesn't however it is really not possible to know as the HOT doesnt bring a "heals xx for yyyy" which basicly means you will never know IF it crits?

BlackCougar Eagle Knight Posts: 589 Joined: Dec 30, 2008 01:00	Reply with quote by BlackCougar » Sep 14, 2009 23:04 well you would have to watch the percentages it heals and compare, but it will be very hard to tell. it would just be a big help since thats basicly the only form of heal we use. the baseline mentalism heal is just an emergency feature.

nixian Forum Moderator Posts: 5450 Joined: May 19, 2006 00:00	Reply with quote by nixian » Sep 14, 2009 23:06 agreed but whether its happening or not is hard to tell - even if on live have you checked zippitys grab bag compilation of mentalists? http://www.uthgard-server.net/modules.p ... pic&t=8043

BlackCougar Eagle Knight Posts: 589 Joined: Dec 30, 2008 01:00	Reply with quote by BlackCougar » Sep 15, 2009 03:00 will do now. wild power is discussed barely anywhere. found something else id like to know. does it work on vale procs? i found that it might not have an effect on reaver weapon procs, but that was all very obscure. since there is almost no information on this matter, id like to hear the dev side how its handled on uthgard. they increase in damage linked to the base statt (str) which is correct. but i cant figure out if the proc crit rate is linked to meele (like their damage is) or to magic.

Healowner Gryphon Knight Posts: 386 Joined: Apr 17, 2009 00:00 Location: Bucharest YIM	Reply with quote by Healowner » Sep 15, 2009 07:52 Wild healing does not affect HoT, also wild power doesn't affect DoT afaik. Healowner - Alb/Merlin - The Guardians

carnalito Gryphon Knight Posts: 311 Joined: Apr 06, 2009 00:00 Website	Reply with quote by carnalito » Sep 15, 2009 08:58 Wild Power is the only way you can crit with dot..

jrhadden Eagle Knight Posts: 938 Joined: Jun 02, 2005 00:00	Reply with quote by jrhadden » Sep 15, 2009 10:32 Wild Power: Crit on DoTs (and other stuff) (works on uth) Wild Healing: Crit on HoTs (and other stuff)( i dont have a class with HoT, but it should work) Greetz Nes Inactive

Zarkor Unicorn Knight Posts: 3710 Joined: Aug 15, 2006 00:00 Location: Antwerp, Flanders, Belgium	Reply with quote by Zarkor » Sep 15, 2009 10:42 jrhadden wrote:Wild Healing: Crit on HoTs (and other stuff)( i dont have a class with HoT, but it should work) And you know this.. how? In defense of truth-to-experience.

Nymeros Phoenix Knight Posts: 1426 Joined: Apr 12, 2009 00:00	Reply with quote by Nymeros » Sep 15, 2009 11:21 AFAIK HoTs should not benefit from Wild Healing. Here's a quote from a grab-bag about friars that is relevant: Q. Awhile back I asked a question about if Wild healing and Mastery of Healing affected heal procs and staff heals from the Friar. My Friar has Wild Healing 3, but when looking back in my log I don't see my staff heals crit one time. So do heals off of staff styles from the Friar ever crit? A. The Equalizer knew this one immediately: The Friar Staff styles Figure Eight, Banish, Double Strike, Friar's Fury and Excommunicate all currently have healing spells attached to them, and all of these spells do have the ability to achieve critical heals when used. The Staff style Holy Staff, however, has a Heal Over Time attached, which is not able of achieving a critical heal when used. If you're interested in improving the rate of critical heals, then increasing the level of Wild Healing will cause these critical heals to occur more often. How it is on Uth, I don't know. And also Wild Power should not affect weapon procs, HOWEVER I think that it currently does on Uthgard.

zenobya Myrmidon Posts: 146 Joined: Aug 10, 2009 00:00	Reply with quote by zenobya » Sep 15, 2009 14:01 if you chk spels base table basic heal is a target or area(group) castable one time spell whihc is using master of heal and wild ras to benefit fom on the other hand hot is regen over time like dot based spell which is not benefiting fom both above ras but on the other hand wild power which gives debufs dots a chance to crit have a slight chance adding hots a crit rate as well in basis of spell functioning yet not sure if working as that way

Healowner Gryphon Knight Posts: 386 Joined: Apr 17, 2009 00:00 Location: Bucharest YIM	Reply with quote by Healowner » Sep 15, 2009 17:53 jrhadden wrote:Wild Power: Crit on DoTs (and other stuff) (works on uth) Wild Healing: Crit on HoTs (and other stuff)( i dont have a class with HoT, but it should work) Greetz Nes Not sure about WP and DoT, but I am sure that WH doesn't affect HoT. Healowner - Alb/Merlin - The Guardians

Zarkor Unicorn Knight Posts: 3710 Joined: Aug 15, 2006 00:00 Location: Antwerp, Flanders, Belgium	Reply with quote by Zarkor » Sep 15, 2009 18:26 Healowner wrote: jrhadden wrote:Wild Power: Crit on DoTs (and other stuff) (works on uth) Wild Healing: Crit on HoTs (and other stuff)( i dont have a class with HoT, but it should work) Greetz Nes Not sure about WP and DoT, but I am sure that WH doesn't affect HoT. WP affects DoT, 100% sure. In defense of truth-to-experience.

BlackCougar Eagle Knight Posts: 589 Joined: Dec 30, 2008 01:00	Reply with quote by BlackCougar » Sep 15, 2009 18:51 WH affects base line heals - yes WH affects specline heals - yes WH affects group heals - yes WH affects heal over time - unknown WH affects weapon/armor (re)procs - unknown WP affects base and spec magic - yes WP affects damage over time - yes WP affects weapon/armor (re)procs / charges - unkown WP affects style procs (valewalker, reaver) - unknown need dev help :)

Hedra Eagle Knight Posts: 1002 Joined: Mar 14, 2007 01:00	Reply with quote by Hedra » Sep 15, 2009 19:59 Wild healing works on healprocs, at least on cleric's healproc buff. Though I don't think it should. I also know some VW who were running with wild power and it seemed to work on style procs. I am assuming direct control.