When will hunters be fixed?

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RonELuvv
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Postby RonELuvv » Sep 09, 2011 21:11

I'm basing my opinion of Edgtho on experiences from fighting him 1 vs 1. When I was high 6L's up to 7L0 I would see him at AMG solo all the time. I could own any other hunter out there np, as well as pretty much any assasin, and all scouts, but Edgtho would beat me 8 times out of 10. The only times I was able to beat him was when I was able to open with Crit shot, and 1 or 2 more normal shots b4 he got to me. Now he did all this while being around 5L0. I'm not saying he is the best played hunter, but whatever it is that he does (or how he is spec'd) is effective against people 1 vs 1. I couldnt tell you about how he plays when there is multiple people on him.

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Postby Rector » Sep 09, 2011 21:45

Does he play with lagstrafing/going through the enemy all time so the enemy gets out of view?
Or what does he do different?

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Postby RonELuvv » Sep 09, 2011 22:40

In all my fights with him I've never seen him use bow. I could be wrong, but I would guess he's full mele spec. He has very high dmg absorption so I'm guessing high PD and he deals a TON of damage with his 2h sword. I think its called Dragon Storm or Dragon Fury (not sure which). It's not that he does anything particularly special in combat, he just does alot of dmg and takes alot of dmg. Fighting him is like more like fighting a tank class then fighting a stealther. I wouldnt say it is the way he plays as much as it is his spec with a combination of good items and good RA's.

As far as lag strafing I dont recall. I do seem to recall him doing the run threw method a little bit. He's not as bad about it as me :) but he does do it some. I'm not very familiar with the styles in the 2h line for hunters but isnt there a rear stun? That may have been what he was trying to pull off when doing the run threw method, but to be honest he didnt do it very much at all.

Also, realise I havent fought him 1 vs 1 in prolly 2 months or more, so I'm going off memory here so it could be a bit off. One thing I know 100% is that he gave all the stealthers out there trouble 1 vs 1.

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Postby Fjott » Sep 10, 2011 00:13

So much rumours going around here now. :?

Edgtho is not an archer, he probably never was one either.

For a very long time he have been 50 sword, no bow speced, with pd4, ip2, purge1, mos2, mopain3 or so.
He tried, before the last block-tweak to utilize the off block stun in sword-line, but like most mid stuns, it is second in chain, and not very easy to land.
When you are speced sword you do not have any other stuns beside second in chain off block, like you do in spear with the 'from behind' 5 sec stun (should be 7 sec though), therefore it is of no use to strafe. The only reason to strafe is to maybe get in ragnarok, and surpass the broken defense-system.

To my recalling Edgtho did not tend to strafe either.
His own words: "I suck at it!"

His 2h sword should be DragonFury (5.7 dragon drop), but his damage is not really higher then that of spearhunters.

The usual fights is to purge str/con debuff and first viper, and just bash, and use ip if needed.
What makes him seem hard is the fact that he don't fight very often without active RAs up, and that he is the only hunter with a pd4+ip2+purge1+pain3 combo. I actually do not know of any other 'active' hunters, that don't mosbot, who actually have pd4. You can look upon him as mid's version of Syuveil.

However there have been quite some time since I last spoted him online.
Maybe it might be the fact that I am also not very active myself either,
or perhaps he got fed up with the fact that hunter is so hard to actually do well on with the buggy defense-system.

@Edgtho: "If you don't do anything about it soon, I will end up beeing the first!" :lol:
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Postby Sumosan » Sep 10, 2011 02:39

fjott...


you might be "first" in herald some time , but you will never be a thing called hunter





kraehe

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Postby Frendir » Sep 10, 2011 04:13

Fjott wrote:When you are speced sword you do not have any other stuns beside second in chain off block,


Hunter got this Style after evade.
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Postby Fjott » Sep 10, 2011 21:15

Sumosan wrote:fjott...
you might be "first" in herald some time , but you will never be a thing called hunter
kraehe

What we compete with, have nothing to do with the herald at all :P

And if your definition of an hunter, is to play like you do scout, then I agree, I will never become one...

Frendir wrote:Hunter got this Style after evade.

This is Uthgard :wall:

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Postby Sumosan » Sep 10, 2011 22:23

i'm satiesfied when its more stealther than mosbot, running ahead some trolls...


nothing to do with any scout behavior


kraehe

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Postby ZaiQQ » Sep 11, 2011 01:12

Sumosan wrote:i'm satiesfied when its more stealther than mosbot, running ahead some trolls...


nothing to do with any scout behavior


kraehe


So you think fjott should mosbot, add every fight he sees and run in stealthgroups like you? :p
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Postby RonELuvv » Sep 11, 2011 05:06

Very nice :) Thanks for the info Fjott. Always wondered his spec. If I was him I think I would have used that spec but instead of pd4 go with pd3 and toughness3. I think that is much more effective. You lose 7% mele resist, but gain 150 hps and you get 75 more hp's on ip2. Yah, I've seen Edgtho on Woody a couple times in the last month, but havent seen him to often either ;(

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Postby -l- Edgtho -l- » Sep 12, 2011 20:06

hey noobs!

RonELuvv wrote:Very nice :) Thanks for the info Fjott. Always wondered his spec. If I was him I think I would have used that spec but instead of pd4 go with pd3 and toughness3. I think that is much more effective. You lose 7% mele resist, but gain 150 hps and you get 75 more hp's on ip2. Yah, I've seen Edgtho on Woody a couple times in the last month, but havent seen him to often either ;(


absolutely right!

Snigel wrote:Cool story about Edgtho is:
He got sick of all the ranger QQ on these boards, rolled a hunter and guess what?
He was doing great solo (haven´t seen him for a while) ... so yes, get in touch and maybe get some advice.


<3 :)

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Postby RonELuvv » Sep 12, 2011 23:26

And the man himself appears :) Whats up Edgtho, you need to show those hunters on Midgard how to spec and play, heheheh :) BTW, was the "absolutely right" comment about the pd3+toughness3 > pd4?

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Postby shade » Sep 13, 2011 10:36

Not to mention, HPs help vs. poison, while PD doesn't.
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Postby -l- Edgtho -l- » Sep 13, 2011 10:41

shade wrote:Not to mention, HPs help vs. poison, while PD doesn't.


exactly :D

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Postby Seyha » Sep 14, 2011 19:39

To answer an earlier question about sword hunters doing more damage:

If you take Norse as your race, +15 strength, and you take aug strength 1 or 2, and you have the str/con charge, then you will have a higher damage stat with sword.

Otherwise, spear is better.
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