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Razzer Eagle Knight Posts: 913 Joined: Jul 04, 2009 00:00 Location: Behind Enemy Lines	Reply with quote by Razzer » Mar 15, 2011 17:11 Damage is comparable to live but because it's calculated differently you do sometimes more and sometimes less than you actually should. It's more a compromise than a real formula. Uthgard till 2003!

Blue Developer Posts: 15822 Joined: Apr 22, 2005 00:00	Reply with quote by Blue » Mar 15, 2011 17:29 Lemonjelly wrote:Dunno tbh, when I tested 2h PA with ~60 CS spec against a shaman I hit for 500 damage. Calculated it with the damage formula and resists/absorb, looked legit to me. If there were any recent customizations in the past 6 months that made PA broken again then I apologize. I would bet you see the same damage against a full plate tank. It's done when it's done. Thanks for your patience. Every bug gets fixed. Sooner or later. "It is an inescapable law of nature that the amount of satisfaction one gains from achieving something is related to how hard it is and easy things can only elicit a fleeting superficial sort of pleasure." Blue says, "you used macro tools or macro keyboard" Pala says, "i am disabled. and i have a mechanic left hand that can be programed. its hard to play woith one hand" [Appeal] Bxxxxxxxx: "why is RA first aid cann man i stealth use and not unstealth cann man ra if man use unstealth ?????????" BannedUser: "i was not using automate game action my hand was fall on keyboard during i was sleep .... i was completly fall on keyboard ..."

Healowner Gryphon Knight Posts: 386 Joined: Apr 17, 2009 00:00 Location: Bucharest YIM	Reply with quote by Healowner » Mar 15, 2011 17:52 Blue wrote: Lemonjelly wrote:Dunno tbh, when I tested 2h PA with ~60 CS spec against a shaman I hit for 500 damage. Calculated it with the damage formula and resists/absorb, looked legit to me. If there were any recent customizations in the past 6 months that made PA broken again then I apologize. I would bet you see the same damage against a full plate tank. I don't have any real tests on this, but in Wilton the PA damage indeed seemed the same against chain/studded wearers. The only issue is that the damage in Wilton can't be really considered reliable since AF/resists can vary quite a lot. Healowner - Alb/Merlin - The Guardians

Lemonjelly Banned Posts: 249 Joined: Mar 04, 2011 22:58	Reply with quote by Lemonjelly » Mar 15, 2011 18:51 Blue wrote: Lemonjelly wrote:Dunno tbh, when I tested 2h PA with ~60 CS spec against a shaman I hit for 500 damage. Calculated it with the damage formula and resists/absorb, looked legit to me. If there were any recent customizations in the past 6 months that made PA broken again then I apologize. I would bet you see the same damage against a full plate tank. Definitely, since effective resists against slash are same for midgard chain and plate armor.

Hoppip Myrmidon Posts: 113 Joined: Jan 29, 2011 04:58	Reply with quote by Hoppip » Mar 15, 2011 21:13 My paladin gets perfed pretty hard by thrusting nightshades with my AF buff and AF chant going. I've never seen it hit for less than 400. And this is with a 1handed weapon with a -10% resist bonus against some of the highest AF in the game. I'm not familiar with the formula myself, but it certainly doesn't seem right compared to a 2hander hitting a shaman for 500. Also known as: Kiorein, Acolyn, Skiploom, and Krinton.

Blue Developer Posts: 15822 Joined: Apr 22, 2005 00:00	Reply with quote by Blue » Mar 15, 2011 23:20 Hoppip wrote:My paladin gets perfed pretty hard by thrusting nightshades with my AF buff and AF chant going. I've never seen it hit for less than 400. And this is with a 1handed weapon with a -10% resist bonus against some of the highest AF in the game. I'm not familiar with the formula myself, but it certainly doesn't seem right compared to a 2hander hitting a shaman for 500. It just ignores your defense. Thats the problem. It's done when it's done. Thanks for your patience. Every bug gets fixed. Sooner or later. "It is an inescapable law of nature that the amount of satisfaction one gains from achieving something is related to how hard it is and easy things can only elicit a fleeting superficial sort of pleasure." Blue says, "you used macro tools or macro keyboard" Pala says, "i am disabled. and i have a mechanic left hand that can be programed. its hard to play woith one hand" [Appeal] Bxxxxxxxx: "why is RA first aid cann man i stealth use and not unstealth cann man ra if man use unstealth ?????????" BannedUser: "i was not using automate game action my hand was fall on keyboard during i was sleep .... i was completly fall on keyboard ..."

Lemonjelly Banned Posts: 249 Joined: Mar 04, 2011 22:58	Reply with quote by Lemonjelly » Mar 16, 2011 02:21 They didn't seem to ignore defenses when I perfed a rr7 (high PD) ranger for 250 damage, maybe the "defense ignoring" is selective depending on class targeted ?

Force Phoenix Knight Posts: 1569 Joined: Oct 22, 2009 00:00	Reply with quote by Force » Mar 16, 2011 03:12 maybe it ignores AF? If that were the case a ranger with PD would prolly see less dmg on PA than a paladin.

vangonaj Alerion Knight Posts: 2497 Joined: Sep 14, 2007 00:00 Location: Galpen	Reply with quote by vangonaj » Mar 16, 2011 12:10 Force wrote:maybe it ignores AF? If that were the case a ranger with PD would prolly see less dmg on PA than a paladin. And happens. Vs pd ranger pa damage is 200-250.

Fediuld Myrmidon Posts: 100 Joined: Nov 22, 2010 14:22	Reply with quote by Fediuld » Mar 16, 2011 14:18 Hi, I just got some screen shots from yesterday's venture in Thidranki. Still trying to find the shots with Noir, if not found I will get him in DF soon with my other ranger or champ. (yes I have 2 rangers with different specs). Now that's against Level 49, similar RR player, with 99% qua torso, cap resists and PD1. and

vangonaj Alerion Knight Posts: 2497 Joined: Sep 14, 2007 00:00 Location: Galpen	Reply with quote by vangonaj » Mar 16, 2011 14:39 What spec has this assasin? This infiltrator is level 48 and not 49 http://uthgard.net/index.php?option=com ... 55&lang=en

Fediuld Myrmidon Posts: 100 Joined: Nov 22, 2010 14:22	Reply with quote by Fediuld » Mar 16, 2011 16:16 Idk, I only play a ranger. Maybe ask?

Lemonjelly Banned Posts: 249 Joined: Mar 04, 2011 22:58	Reply with quote by Lemonjelly » Mar 16, 2011 16:47 What's wrong with a 500 PA against studded armor ? I get critshot from melee rangers for 600

Fediuld Myrmidon Posts: 100 Joined: Nov 22, 2010 14:22	Reply with quote by Fediuld » Mar 16, 2011 17:32 No melee ranger can do 600 crit shot. It will be a miracle if they hit at all and at 12 bow can't do even a third of that. Hybrids on the other hand can do it.

Lemonjelly Banned Posts: 249 Joined: Mar 04, 2011 22:58	Reply with quote by Lemonjelly » Mar 16, 2011 17:34 Yeah, "hybrid" whatever, with 35 bow, just a melee ranger with a high damage opener. For an assassin to perf for 500 with 1handed weapon he needs to max out CS.