What tier dmg is ranger class?

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Postby MotaroReloaded » Jan 19, 2012 19:49

Jonah wrote:
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Any1 with a ranger on uthg wana do 100 hits with a weap VS a certain armour and tell me min and max plz?



50 ranger 8L3
1205 ws
285 str
236 qui
17% haste charge
50+18 cd
25+18 blades
NOOTE!!!! all relics +10% dmg

hitting every 2 seconds according the parser

against a 50 doll

off hand dmg (72%) : min 59 max 85 avg 72
squall (0.58) min 112 max 161 avg 138
ice storm (0.77) min 124max 176 avg 144
tempest min (0.98) 137 max 191 avg 164

Try get the same weapon spd (a hit every 2 sec in average) and hit a doll urself.
I bet ur zerker out damage this by far even considering the LA dmg reduction and the bonus from the relics
A ranger will miss more and get evaded more then a zerker to.

Only reason u loose is bcs of PD and damage table, remember if u charge the ranger can get a free 200+ damage on u with rr5. On the other hand he cant kite vendo then but i think its give and take on those.


You didnt help as i asked for something totally diferent, dolls are irelevant on uthg, plus i need 100 melee unstyled hits with 1 weapon only .. and perform one style so ican see the styled dmg..thats it.. i ve said in a post earlier all the requirements for the tests i need.
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Postby Jonah » Jan 19, 2012 22:24

MotaroReloaded wrote:
You didnt help as i asked for something totally diferent, dolls are irelevant on uthg, plus i need 100 melee unstyled hits with 1 weapon only .. and perform one style so ican see the styled dmg..thats it.. i ve said in a post earlier all the requirements for the tests i need.


lol u want me to come home to u and clean and cook ur meals to, maybe bone ur wife.
This is all u need to compare damage between classes so u can see that ur "gimped" zerker do more damage then a melee speced ranger with the same realm rank.

Just test on a doll with the same growth rate and u will see but i guess all u can do is QQ when faced with numbers that prove facts.

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Postby MotaroReloaded » Jan 20, 2012 00:21

Jonah wrote:
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You didnt help as i asked for something totally diferent, dolls are irelevant on uthg, plus i need 100 melee unstyled hits with 1 weapon only .. and perform one style so ican see the styled dmg..thats it.. i ve said in a post earlier all the requirements for the tests i need.


lol u want me to come home to u and clean and cook ur meals to, maybe bone ur wife.
This is all u need to compare damage between classes so u can see that ur "gimped" zerker do more damage then a melee speced ranger with the same realm rank.

Just test on a doll with the same growth rate and u will see but i guess all u can do is QQ when faced with numbers that prove facts.


This is my thread my rules , if you dont like it..scram ! I know what needs tested .
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Postby Austerim » Jan 20, 2012 00:29

You also seem to think Rangers are on the God Tier of damage and they aren't.
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Postby MotaroReloaded » Jan 20, 2012 00:54

Austerim wrote:You also seem to think Rangers are on the God Tier of damage and they aren't.


Classes are not livelike implemented on uthgard Austerim .. as long as ranger gets same dmg from str, skil spec, rr skils, item skills, growth rate for celtic dual styles like blademasters and they should get less like on live, plus defence issue is also not working disadvantaging classes with high WS that could lower block/parry/evade more eficently and add Phisical defence RA that is a ToA RA on top of that .. ..they are overpowered to me yes.
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Postby Magicco » Jan 20, 2012 01:04

Austerim wrote:You also seem to think Rangers are on the God Tier of damage and they aren't.


PLUS all DW stealther classes got way to high GR out of duelstyles!^^

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Postby pweet » Jan 20, 2012 01:36

All of you who cry about ranger, should play once a viper bot. Then you d know whats the easy class on uth :D :D

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Postby Garad » Jan 20, 2012 02:10

pweet wrote:All of you who cry about ranger, should play once a viper bot. Then you d know whats the easy class on uth :D :D


Even without viper my Inf outdamage my ranger by far. The anymtime and after-evade crit-strike growth rates are just insane compared with normal styles. Any light-tank that can't outdamage a ranger should maybe delete his character and play mabye a bonedancer (ok, not so trong here). But I guess some midgard zerker player are used just to stick, spam double frost and wait for healer haste? :lol:
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Postby Braxis » Jan 23, 2012 18:42

Blue wrote:Again, the link Braxis posted is NOT valid or live like. Don't assume that without a proper live test.

Did you account for the changes made to WS for certain classes in later patches (after 1.80)?
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Postby Blue » Jan 23, 2012 20:18

Braxis wrote:
Blue wrote:Again, the link Braxis posted is NOT valid or live like. Don't assume that without a proper live test.

Did you account for the changes made to WS for certain classes in later patches (after 1.80)?

There were livetests on daocpedia before these patches.
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Postby MotaroReloaded » Jan 27, 2012 03:46

Braxis wrote:
Blue wrote:Again, the link Braxis posted is NOT valid or live like. Don't assume that without a proper live test.

Did you account for the changes made to WS for certain classes in later patches (after 1.80)?


I ll have a look also just out of curiosity to see if there were ..until now..as my tests are donen ow with patch 1.110
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