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ns dmg from uthg compared to live

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Ronian Phoenix Knight Posts: 1556 Joined: Jan 12, 2008 01:00	Reply with quote by Ronian » Mar 29, 2010 16:02 aug str 4 = 20 points. And where on that screenshot is viper3?

Ragabbash Gryphon Knight Posts: 270 Joined: Nov 11, 2008 01:00	Reply with quote by Ragabbash » Mar 29, 2010 16:10 Yes he only have viper2 now, i remember him wiht viper3

Ironberg Myrmidon Posts: 153 Joined: Feb 01, 2008 01:00	Reply with quote by Ironberg » Mar 29, 2010 17:19 Ronian wrote: vangonaj wrote:Something strange happens with NS damage. They do better damage than norse sb with zerk spec. First was Dam now Seppel. And 188(-44) its very very strange. What is strange? On live I did with realmrank 4 250 to 280 mainhand vs other stealthers. Ok, buffbot buffs and better gear but 100 damage more than here sounds ok for me! And again for noobs: Dam: 38% slash resistance (including armor bonus) SBs Norse: 19% slash restiance Additionally Nightshades mostly use HIGH growthrates styles from the cs line and not LA (LA has high growthrates too but not as good as cs styles). you do know that cs styles effected by your main melee spec?, cs just gives you the styles and of course every skill in cs is +9 for pa.

Ronian Phoenix Knight Posts: 1556 Joined: Jan 12, 2008 01:00	Reply with quote by Ronian » Mar 29, 2010 17:29 Ironberg wrote: Ronian wrote: vangonaj wrote:Something strange happens with NS damage. They do better damage than norse sb with zerk spec. First was Dam now Seppel. And 188(-44) its very very strange. What is strange? On live I did with realmrank 4 250 to 280 mainhand vs other stealthers. Ok, buffbot buffs and better gear but 100 damage more than here sounds ok for me! And again for noobs: Dam: 38% slash resistance (including armor bonus) SBs Norse: 19% slash restiance Additionally Nightshades mostly use HIGH growthrates styles from the cs line and not LA (LA has high growthrates too but not as good as cs styles). you do know that cs styles effected by your main melee spec?, cs just gives you the styles and of course every skill in cs is +9 for pa. No not really. It is enough to have Wyrd spec like composite 51 weapon and max out cs. Fight vs Dam and you will know what I am talking about

vangonaj Alerion Knight Posts: 2497 Joined: Sep 14, 2007 00:00 Location: Galpen	Reply with quote by vangonaj » Mar 29, 2010 17:40 Do you mean that i can do the same damage if i have 50cs and 50 weapon or 50 cs and 35+15 weapon? Like with LA? LA and cs works similar?

Razzer Eagle Knight Posts: 913 Joined: Jul 04, 2009 00:00 Location: Behind Enemy Lines	Reply with quote by Razzer » Mar 29, 2010 17:47 You have the same variance with 35+16 and 50+16 in weapon. The increase in base damage is marginal and not worth the specpoints. Your styledamage with thrust/slash/axe/sword/pierce/blade is higher but this doesn't matter when you use cs-styles. Uthgard till 2003!

vangonaj Alerion Knight Posts: 2497 Joined: Sep 14, 2007 00:00 Location: Galpen	Reply with quote by vangonaj » Mar 29, 2010 17:48 Then works like LA. tnx

Heli Gryphon Knight Posts: 394 Joined: Dec 07, 2005 01:00	Reply with quote by Heli » Mar 29, 2010 18:23 Asked a hib player. Grim Blade is 4.2 speed in Hibernia. Last edited by Heli on Mar 29, 2010 18:24, edited 1 time in total.

Satz Alerion Knight Posts: 1860 Joined: Jun 21, 2005 00:00 Location: Albion	Reply with quote by Satz » Mar 29, 2010 18:23 Not really... CS has good gr-styles, so the styledmg form cs styles depends directly on your cs spec, while you basedmg depends on your weaponspec beeing above your level(wyrdspec). It works simmilar to LA, with the difference that there is no penalty to basedmg aplied unlike there is one with LA.

Glacius	Reply with quote by Glacius » Mar 29, 2010 19:12 Satz wrote:Not really... CS has good gr-styles, so the styledmg form cs styles depends directly on your cs spec, while you basedmg depends on your weaponspec beeing above your level(wyrdspec). It works simmilar to LA, with the difference that there is no penalty to basedmg aplied unlike there is one with LA. Correct , and i hope it's like this on uthg and CS spec doesnt affect base dmg when using cs styles cause that would be a problem.

Glacius	Reply with quote by Glacius » Apr 06, 2010 00:23 This is Seppel backstab 2 dmg vs berseker 19% abs 650 AF ( had AF buff) , 447dmg on a 19% slash resist. Then 449 dmg in another fight. This is a NS with same stats as seppel or higher on live pendragon performing Backstab 2 on same abs and 19% slash res: Backstab hits too hard also not only PA .

Ronian Phoenix Knight Posts: 1556 Joined: Jan 12, 2008 01:00	Reply with quote by Ronian » Apr 06, 2010 01:25 Old story. What dont you understand that out of stealth skills arent correctly implemented? They have a higher cap than on live too....

Dialia Myrmidon Posts: 208 Joined: Dec 21, 2008 01:00	Reply with quote by Dialia » Apr 06, 2010 01:35 do you ever ask yourself, why its called "critical"-strike ?

Glacius	Reply with quote by Glacius » Apr 06, 2010 11:12 Dialia wrote:do you ever ask yourself, why its called "critical"-strike ? Do you ever ask yourself why u keep posting in my threads? Ronian wrote:Old story. What dont you understand that out of stealth skills arent correctly implemented? They have a higher cap than on live too.... So that means i have to get Pa ed constantly by 30% more dmg ? and backstuned with the dmg of PA ? Thats what you sugest ronia .. if they fifex a certain amount of dmg i m prety sure they can lower it , not to mention that here there is no variance in dmg for Pa/Backstab , and there should be a 40% same as any styled hit that comes from base dmg.

Ronian Phoenix Knight Posts: 1556 Joined: Jan 12, 2008 01:00	Reply with quote by Ronian » Apr 06, 2010 11:35 No, I spoke to some high rank NS players in the past and we came to the conclusion that PA cap is higher here on Uthgard (I had a NS on live, blade critspec with 4.3 weapon and had a lower crit cap).