RA respec

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What would you do with RA respecs?

Make dragon/legion drop more RA respecs
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25%
Make dragon weaker.
1
2%
Buy RA respec for BPs.
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48%
I think they're too rare, but have another idea! (write it)
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Nothing, it's just fine.
11
25%
 
Total votes : 44

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Postby Luv » Mar 09, 2008 15:05

you did not just say that...

be glad you're far away from me...
****** like that never fails to ****** me off

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Postby Ranius » Mar 09, 2008 16:03

Hedra just ASKED if you have no organization. And things like: Be glad you're far away from me...threat? /shiver

Anyway, posts like that make topics /locked, please stay on topic.

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Postby Fraem » Mar 09, 2008 16:12

Hedra wrote:And why do you need 5fg ? No organisation ? This is not mids' fault.


I've been on both the mid and the alb DRs and as far as I can see they both have a more or less equally organised raid. Simply blaming the organisation and overlooking certain class/ability differences is rather.. ignorant. Your comment falls into the 'get more skill n00b' category, which is universally know as very constructive. Celerity (and savage dmg mitigation) is more than just icing on the cake.

Ontopic:

I would like to know how the admins determine what the 1.80 dragons were like in terms of damage, resistences and behaviour. If it's more or less a copy of the current dragons (as Cespx indicates) then this sounds more than unfair when they do drop the current amount of respec stones.

@Ranius:
Hedra's post was not just a question. Otherwise the 'no organisation' part would have been left out or there would be more elaboration on that phrase.

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Postby Hedra » Mar 09, 2008 17:05

Hm this was not an insult to alb players oO

It's just that on hib we killed dragon with 18 or 19 players last time, so if alb can't, there must be another reason than savage + celerity ...

I'm sorry if saying this hurts albs and makes you hate me :/ just forget it :o
I am assuming direct control.

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Postby grizz » Mar 09, 2008 18:39

sure, albs can do that too with fewer player, but albion is a realm where the most players are playing for their own.
no one cares about the whole realm.
no 1 speaks with others.
under this circumstances its impossible to do it like hib or mid.

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Postby Kronos » Mar 09, 2008 19:04

Hedra wrote:
DanGer666 wrote:this is not live. and i just think that gaining a advantage of this kind is kinda unfair. its unfair allready,but hey..give the dragons more respecs,so some realms kick him twice a day and some realms die even with a zerg on the dragon. thats just alb ment.. i know.. im a stupid alb who has to run in a 5 fg zerg to kill the dragon and i dont deserve to say that this suxx damn hard. specially if metty posts the killlogs of the bossmobs after some other raids @ irc again..if ucant stand critics,just dont read what ive written.

And why do you need 5fg ? No organisation ? This is not mids' fault.


...

Sorry, but it seems you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

Don't post such comments if you haven't been on an albion raid. Just mind your own business.
Sure, we do not need exactly 5fg, but we won't be able to kill him with 2fg.

Thats a fact.

I would never say that we are perfect or that there is nothing to be improved in our dragonraid-organisation, but telling us we lack organisation... well... thats arrogant at best. :)

Kronos

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Postby Kronos » Mar 09, 2008 19:10

grizz wrote:sure, albs can do that too with fewer player, but albion is a realm where the most players are playing for their own.
no one cares about the whole realm.
no 1 speaks with others.
under this circumstances its impossible to do it like hib or mid.


Well, grizz, crying on your own realm (it is your realm, is it? - still being 100% anonymous) is easy.

I did not see you helping with the raid organisation...or did i miss something?

Have been asking for help quite a long time now...people who blame their own realm should think about what they are doing for it first...

Just my 2 cents...

Kronos

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Postby Hedra » Mar 09, 2008 19:16

Like Ranius said it was a question, maybe I said it the wrong way and it sounds provocation ... Nevermind, I remove what I said.
I am assuming direct control.

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Postby Kronos » Mar 09, 2008 19:23

No harm done. I just don't like it when the organisation is devaluated.

We are always open for advice and improved strategies. But these strategies should come from people within the realm, from people who have experienced albion raid situations.

Greetz
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Postby Ranius » Mar 09, 2008 19:36

Please back to topic - dragon is same for alb, hib and mid.

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Postby grizz » Mar 09, 2008 20:03

Well, grizz, crying on your own realm


its just the truth....
but ignoring the situation on albion is the wrong way.... You think its another situation?
ok then tell me , why albion is not able to make only 1 rvr GRP in Emain?
why is the ally splittet in 2 or 3 other allies?
Oh i see albion is very united....
That are facts...
i wait for ur answers...

and dont say i didnt have the will to organisate a grp....

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Postby DanGer666 » Mar 09, 2008 20:07

why is the ally splittet in 2 or 3 other allies?


explain that. there is one big ally.the one of UB;that has been founded after the OOL Ally was broken down. OOL was inactive, noone had rights etc.

are there other allies beside the UB Ally? and who is member there?
Realm versus Realm means:
Everybody of some Realm, against everyone of the other Realms..
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Postby Cespx » Mar 09, 2008 20:12

PLS PPL. This is ra stones thread not alb allys...

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Postby Kronos » Mar 09, 2008 20:14

Grizz, i won't ague with you. Just don't attack the dragonraid if you are not willing to help. You don't need to help, sure, but then don't cry about the bad albion community not being able to better organize a raid.

btw: Still wondering why you keep being anonymous...

Kronos

[edit: sry, its OT...won't discuss OT any further ;)]

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Postby Cespx » Mar 09, 2008 20:44

To the ra stones topic. RA stones for BPs is a solution but i dont thing it's the best one. I would like to see people trading with each other. If gm available ras for bps it wont change anything. Players with higher rr will get their stone and use it. Lower rr players will be left with their f***cked up ra setup with long way in front to get ra respec.
Another solution is RA stone for diamond seals. It's also not perfect but it forces cooperation (farming dias solo isnt effective:D ).
And at last but not least famous dragon drop. I still dont get it why our dragons drop only 4 ra stones. They're already "livelike". Dragon wipes 2 from 3 raids (in hib) trying to kill him. For that we get only 4 ra stones. I think it's unfair comparing it to those mencioned 25 ras on live (where dragon is same strong). I'm also not begging for those 25 ras but i wonder why GMs cant give us at least 8 from the dragon. I've read somewhere GMs post that it would be too easy and everyone would have his own. I say it's too hard atm. Just look at Mettys post. 49 albs, 4 ra stones. They need 12,25 raids to make all players get ra respec. Albs have raid 2 times a week. That means they need at least 6 weeks to fill everyones expectations. Addicionally not everyone can take part in every raid so add ~one week. To sume up we've got 7 week of waiting in Albion.
Now lets talk about hibs. After 4-6 wipes in a row nobody organises "whole realm raids". We killed dragon 3-4 times since he had been changed. I dont know exactly the moment but i guess it will give 1 dragon per month. So lets count it. 4 dragons x 4 ras= 16 ras. 4 raids x ~20 ppl = 80 ppl. Minus ~30 because some of them took part in more than one raid. We've got 50 ppl left. Minus 16 ras = 36 ppl without ra respec.
I dont know how it look in Midgard but i dont think it's much better.

To sume up, i think stones drop from Dragon isnt setup right on Uthgard. Our server want to be classic-like. If it wants to be like that, we all (especially gms) need to accept that Mythic has designed Dragon in this way. Their Dragon has many rare drops but RA STONE is not one of them. It can of course stay the way it is atm but then please dont use the argument "classic like server" anymore.

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