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Don't update to Win 8.1 yet

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Abydos Game Master Posts: 6839 Joined: Jan 22, 2011 21:14	Reply with quote by Abydos » Oct 23, 2013 18:11 pythion wrote:its the new amd catalyst drivers. the mouse issue appeared a few months back for me on live servers with the new drivers. coincidentally the method for using a custom cursor also fixed the lag issue. :\ I have NVIDIA. The fixes on reddit didnt seem to help (regkey changes)

Zonks Warder Posts: 13 Joined: Oct 20, 2013 06:01	Reply with quote by Zonks » Oct 24, 2013 04:05 Same for me on 8.1, running a GTX 760 and a Logitech G500. I get the mouse polling issue. Of what i read, people suspect it has to do with some kind of changes Microsoft did to how DPI or Mouse polling works. Which it will in some games cause the polling rate to drop to almost nothing, which causes the cursor lag. I have not found any way to fix this bug yet ... but i have been trying. My girlfriend on the other hand is using a ATI 7870, and was getting the game freezing, when moving the cursor in the game. But was able to fix that by down grading the driver to 13.4. She also gets the mouse polling issue, but it does not seem to be as bad as mine has gotten. Hopefully there will be a fix soon, or else i will be busy this weekend with two clean reinstalls.

Zonks Warder Posts: 13 Joined: Oct 20, 2013 06:01	Reply with quote by Zonks » Oct 24, 2013 06:31 One work around that works for me is to lower your mouses polling rate / Report rate / DPI to 125, thats if your mouse has the option to do so. It seems the lower your set that, the less slowness you may get. But there is still lag jumping going on, but is kinda some what playable.

rippinpeace Warder Posts: 19 Joined: Nov 28, 2009 01:00	Reply with quote by rippinpeace » Nov 02, 2013 05:57 wtf , i tought to be mad but now i'm not the only that found this problem. I got microsoft cheap mouse and i can't play daoc cause of cursor weird movements . Forgot to say that i have Nvidia card.... K i search and found this : http://www.reddit.com/r/windows/comments/1oor43/windows_81_warning_for_gamers_issues_with/ It seems that there are some problems with mouse and new framework dpi. Hope Microsoft will release a fixing update soon.

Dornwolf Guardian Posts: 1 Joined: Oct 07, 2013 11:34	Reply with quote by Dornwolf » Nov 06, 2013 16:33 Playin with my Lenovo-Laptop and a Logitech-USB-Mouse (cost about 10 € ) and have no problems... played Win8 und updated to Win 8.1. No problems at all...

giammy Warder Posts: 33 Joined: Jul 06, 2008 00:00	Reply with quote by giammy » Nov 10, 2013 16:20 Downgraded with much pain to win 7 and everything is ok. I've read MS released a patch that fix problems with valve profucts, anyone tried with daoc?

Austerim Alerion Knight Posts: 2743 Joined: Dec 15, 2010 16:27	Reply with quote by Austerim » Nov 10, 2013 16:31 http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2908279 Anyone tried that update yet? [3:10pm] <myrmidon^> You have to be a c*** to be awesome at daoc [3:10pm] <myrmidon^> that's what I learnt [3:11pm] <Frosty_> then why does austerim suck lordgriffon wrote:Oh by the way... ever seen a group of 8 smite clerics? Or play against a group like that? I have. Absolute devastation. The group that runs up against them can't kill them fast enough because smite clerics have sooooooo many tools at their disposal combined with decent ranged damage with 8 of them dudes doing it!

Blue Developer Posts: 15822 Joined: Apr 22, 2005 00:00	Reply with quote by Blue » Nov 10, 2013 16:54 Austerim wrote:http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2908279 Anyone tried that update yet? Unfortunately did not help me. It's done when it's done. Thanks for your patience. Every bug gets fixed. Sooner or later. "It is an inescapable law of nature that the amount of satisfaction one gains from achieving something is related to how hard it is and easy things can only elicit a fleeting superficial sort of pleasure." Blue says, "you used macro tools or macro keyboard" Pala says, "i am disabled. and i have a mechanic left hand that can be programed. its hard to play woith one hand" [Appeal] Bxxxxxxxx: "why is RA first aid cann man i stealth use and not unstealth cann man ra if man use unstealth ?????????" BannedUser: "i was not using automate game action my hand was fall on keyboard during i was sleep .... i was completly fall on keyboard ..."

Austerim Alerion Knight Posts: 2743 Joined: Dec 15, 2010 16:27	Reply with quote by Austerim » Nov 10, 2013 17:06 Even the extending to other games stuff didn't work? [3:10pm] <myrmidon^> You have to be a c*** to be awesome at daoc [3:10pm] <myrmidon^> that's what I learnt [3:11pm] <Frosty_> then why does austerim suck lordgriffon wrote:Oh by the way... ever seen a group of 8 smite clerics? Or play against a group like that? I have. Absolute devastation. The group that runs up against them can't kill them fast enough because smite clerics have sooooooo many tools at their disposal combined with decent ranged damage with 8 of them dudes doing it!

svperstar Eagle Knight Posts: 638 Joined: May 31, 2012 20:33	Reply with quote by svperstar » Nov 11, 2013 14:02 I don't use Win 8.1 but I read this on slashdot: "It's a simple fix... they added some new mouse settings that cause the mouse to stop working while typing with a small delay... the settings are buried in the metro UI.... here is how to fix it: 1. Go to the windows setting in the metro UI, for me I just put my mouse pointer in the upper right of the screen until the "search, share, start, device, settings" pop up appears, click the settings icon. 2. click on the change PC settings at the bottom. 3. Click on PC and devices. 4. click on mouse and touch pad 5. under the touch pad settings set the delay to no delay" There will be a group of people out there who will want this realm to be entirely Mythic-like. Exactly like vanilla, drop rates/xp rates, basically everything and you will not be able to please them unless it is exactly like vanilla. These people have their nostalgia goggles on so tight it's cutting off the bloodflow to their brain and they believe that vanilla was perfect and nothing was wrong with it.

giammy Warder Posts: 33 Joined: Jul 06, 2008 00:00	Reply with quote by giammy » Nov 11, 2013 14:37 Tried as well before the 8.1 fix but doesn't help. I have resolved on a buddy laptop with DPI settings to 150% on explorer.exe and manually setting the mouse DPI value on regedit. But no luck on mine

Celteen Alerion Knight Posts: 2326 Joined: Dec 20, 2010 16:52	Reply with quote by Celteen » Nov 11, 2013 14:40 My flat mate upgraded to 8.1 and then the printer did not work anymore. Imo do not upgrade at all if you don't like fixing your computer afterwards <<< This avatar is handmade by Inotor Wurzelbert : ) Check out the Mampfer-Threads for more. viewtopic.php?f=10&t=25079 viewtopic.php?f=10&t=26934

Zonks Warder Posts: 13 Joined: Oct 20, 2013 06:01	Reply with quote by Zonks » Nov 11, 2013 21:08 Blue wrote: Austerim wrote:http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2908279 Anyone tried that update yet? Unfortunately did not help me. I have installed the update and added camelot.exe to the registry, like it says and that fixed the issues for me. I have only tested that on live though, but should work on Uthgard too. I also have the latest Nvidia drivers, in case there is a secondary bug going on.

Abydos Game Master Posts: 6839 Joined: Jan 22, 2011 21:14	Reply with quote by Abydos » Nov 11, 2013 21:18 Austerim wrote:http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2908279 Anyone tried that update yet? Still bused with DAOC+Logitech MX518 on live (1.114) and Uth (1.113). 1.109 seems to not have this issue.

pythion Eagle Knight Posts: 647 Joined: Jun 21, 2010 00:00	Reply with quote by pythion » Nov 12, 2013 03:38 Abydos wrote: Austerim wrote:http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2908279 Anyone tried that update yet? Still bused with DAOC+Logitech MX518 on live (1.114) and Uth (1.113). 1.109 seems to not have this issue. the 8.1 issue is definitely related to the framerate limit they added. the AMD card issue is the cursor in the game.dll being refreshed too frequently (it used to be 10seconds). __________________RvR Videos - Pyth UI_____________________