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Postby TheFoosa » Dec 20, 2012 01:13

Blue wrote:For Vendo and DF models we plan to have a classic mod.


That's good news! When should we expect this?

Despite what everyone says or thinks, the old models were so much better than the actual ones. What about old DF as a zone? Would that be possible? And since we're here how about old cities/border keeps/cabalist pets/necro pets/theurg pets/all other pets/classic buildings and and and that classic UI and icons!

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Postby Abydos » Dec 20, 2012 02:18

As far as the UI goes, you can do that now with the function in the game.

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Postby realac0 » Dec 20, 2012 02:31

Question is:
I can download somewhere an old client?
If yes, i will be able connect uthgard?
---------- UTHGARD 1.0 ------------
ALBION
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Ellehn Thunderer - 7l0 Scout

HIBERNIA
Drawstab Boo <Rinnegati> - 9l0 Ranger
Realz <Rinnegati> - 6l3 Blademaster
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Drawstab Vol.1) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5mE6RQhRwA
Drawstab Vol.2) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDsCAMqZ ... e=youtu.be
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Postby Abydos » Dec 20, 2012 02:44

realac0 wrote:Question is:
I can download somewhere an old client?
If yes, i will be able connect uthgard?

#1 you can't, legally
#2 The minimum supported version is 1.95 Darkness rising. This doesn't mean something older with a 1.95 game.dll or newer -- anything that doesnt match a complete 1.95 client as was available at the time is considered a third-party hack or modification and can result in a permanent ban of all accounts. There have been discussions about raising this client version to ensure all players have the same experience.

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Postby TheFoosa » Dec 20, 2012 03:07

Yup, I am aware of that, Abydos, but i was referring to the original icons/UI (you can see them in some of the screenshots posted on the previous page). Now, that's classic! Either way, i'll settle for classic DF mobs for now, ha! So, when do i get 'em!?

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Postby TheFoosa » Dec 20, 2012 17:09

Abydos wrote:
realac0 wrote:Question is:
I can download somewhere an old client?
If yes, i will be able connect uthgard?

#1 you can't, legally
#2 The minimum supported version is 1.95 Darkness rising. This doesn't mean something older with a 1.95 game.dll or newer -- anything that doesnt match a complete 1.95 client as was available at the time is considered a third-party hack or modification and can result in a permanent ban of all accounts. There have been discussions about raising this client version to ensure all players have the same experience.


#1 I beg to differ. Legally, yes, you can. DAoC went trial for the first time in 2004, months before Catacombs was released and Shrouded Isles was included. The client download was available on different websites including their official website. So, yes, it's safe to say that legally, you can... If you can find it. That'll be the closest thing to the 2001-2002'ish feel.

More than likely, it won't work with any of the servers out there, including Uthgard, so you'll have to take some of the things and integrate them into a 1.95 or later client but then you'll come across #2.

Now, i don't see why i can't modify my client to suit my needs and desires. As long as it changes things on my screen and won't interfere with everything else, i don't see what the problem is.

For example, let's say i want to change the wolf models in game (and let's be honest, they look like damn husky puppies) to the black rabid wolf models we once had; it's a client related change that only affects my client and what's on my screen and again, it won't interfere with everything else so what's the fuss all about?

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Postby Magicco » Dec 20, 2012 17:28

those model changes, like bear-pet to the HARRRRRR-treepet of the druid should be okay
same as vendo mod
same as classic skins (cthonical knights and other DF mobs)

BUT you can easily make changes that will give you "illegal" changes.
for example, replace all lurikeen and kobold chars to firbolg or trolls that you can target them easier.
those changes are undetectable, if you are not as dumb as mentha and post screenshots with those lame ass stuff. BUT they are unfair.

in my opinion, uthgard needs same procedure as the live-server:
before connecting DAoC-portal need to verifiy all existing data and auto update them to the correct ones!!! this would maybe make the mod manager dispenable
otherwise staff cannot detect it.

but making a perm-ban for ALL changes should be make no sense, since many many ppl changed teddy-bear to vendo mod on their own

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Postby Austerim » Dec 20, 2012 17:32

Magicco wrote:those model changes, like bear-pet to the HARRRRRR-treepet of the druid should be okay
http://www.gucomics.com/comic/?cdate=20030424

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[3:10pm] <myrmidon^> that's what I learnt
[3:11pm] <Frosty_> then why does austerim suck
lordgriffon wrote:Oh by the way... ever seen a group of 8 smite clerics? Or play against a group like that? I have. Absolute devastation. The group that runs up against them can't kill them fast enough because smite clerics have sooooooo many tools at their disposal combined with decent ranged damage with 8 of them dudes doing it!

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Postby TheFoosa » Dec 20, 2012 17:34

Pass me a link to mentha's screenshots, Magicco! I'm curious now. :)

LE: But, yes. I know what you mean. That kind of client changes would clearly give you an upper hand and that's not what me or the OP are looking for. Just a few things that we miss, nothing more :).

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Postby Magicco » Dec 20, 2012 19:09

TheFoosa wrote:Pass me a link to mentha's screenshots, Magicco! I'm curious now. :)

LE: But, yes. I know what you mean. That kind of client changes would clearly give you an upper hand and that's not what me or the OP are looking for. Just a few things that we miss, nothing more :).


nop,
mentha posted a screen with his radar-tool and got banned :D

i prefer df-old-skins ofc, since the new ones are blink-blink...
the old succubus looked like a monster. the new like a whore Oo, same for all the other mobs, they may have more "details" but they look cuter

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Postby Abydos » Dec 20, 2012 19:53

Tree pet was removed before 1.69

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Postby Austerim » Dec 20, 2012 20:34

Abydos wrote:Tree pet was removed before 1.69
Have a vote amongst active Druids and see if they want it back! :angry:
[3:10pm] <myrmidon^> You have to be a c*** to be awesome at daoc
[3:10pm] <myrmidon^> that's what I learnt
[3:11pm] <Frosty_> then why does austerim suck
lordgriffon wrote:Oh by the way... ever seen a group of 8 smite clerics? Or play against a group like that? I have. Absolute devastation. The group that runs up against them can't kill them fast enough because smite clerics have sooooooo many tools at their disposal combined with decent ranged damage with 8 of them dudes doing it!

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Postby pythion » Dec 20, 2012 20:43

- We have replaced the druid's tree pet with a black bear. This change should eliminate the problems many druids had with the tree pet interfering with visibility and targeting.
http://camelotherald.wikia.com/wiki/Pat ... rsion_1.68

If anyone remembers the old model he was pretty huge and had some of his limbs cut off
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Postby Darkart » Dec 21, 2012 03:33

Tree pets were a PITA to work around when healing

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Postby Magicco » Dec 21, 2012 03:44

Darkart wrote:Tree pets were a PITA to work around when healing


your argument ist invalid, because of ARRRR, ARRRRRRRRR, ARRRR

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