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Paxx Myrmidon Posts: 183 Joined: Dec 18, 2009 01:00	Reply with quote by Paxx » Feb 11, 2012 16:37 Blue wrote:You shouldnt get any xp as you got help from too high players. I know its different on live but I'm quite sure its not intended in the original game design. well, i don't think it was intended that Sorc had a AE-Mezz... Just ignore it... We could do this all day, if you want it livelike, do it.

dinu Warder Posts: 7 Joined: Dec 14, 2011 20:39	Reply with quote by dinu » Feb 11, 2012 17:02 Magicco wrote:I dont know if it a bug or intended. if a mob gets aggro on yourself with a bodypull, and u dont even debuff/hit/miss/cast/touch this mob you will get some xp(very less) for no work. Thats how it works on live too

Blue Developer Posts: 15827 Joined: Apr 22, 2005 00:00	Reply with quote by Blue » Feb 11, 2012 17:05 dinu wrote: Magicco wrote:I dont know if it a bug or intended. if a mob gets aggro on yourself with a bodypull, and u dont even debuff/hit/miss/cast/touch this mob you will get some xp(very less) for no work. Thats how it works on live too Interesting. Will be tested, as I'm not sure about this. It's done when it's done. Thanks for your patience. Every bug gets fixed. Sooner or later. "It is an inescapable law of nature that the amount of satisfaction one gains from achieving something is related to how hard it is and easy things can only elicit a fleeting superficial sort of pleasure." Blue says, "you used macro tools or macro keyboard" Pala says, "i am disabled. and i have a mechanic left hand that can be programed. its hard to play woith one hand" [Appeal] Bxxxxxxxx: "why is RA first aid cann man i stealth use and not unstealth cann man ra if man use unstealth ?????????" BannedUser: "i was not using automate game action my hand was fall on keyboard during i was sleep .... i was completly fall on keyboard ..."

Phileas Gryphon Knight Posts: 370 Joined: Aug 18, 2007 00:00	Reply with quote by Phileas » Feb 11, 2012 17:18 Blue wrote:You shouldnt get any xp as you got help from too high players. I know its different on live but I'm quite sure its not intended in the original game design. so do you want things to be like they are on live servers or not? i'm getting confused here just want to know so i can save myself some time for reporting things that are wrong but might be intended to be wrong by you guys

Blue Developer Posts: 15827 Joined: Apr 22, 2005 00:00	Reply with quote by Blue » Feb 11, 2012 17:29 I know my statement was provoking. We will propably implement that as it was on live servers or it would land on the customized list. It's done when it's done. Thanks for your patience. Every bug gets fixed. Sooner or later. "It is an inescapable law of nature that the amount of satisfaction one gains from achieving something is related to how hard it is and easy things can only elicit a fleeting superficial sort of pleasure." Blue says, "you used macro tools or macro keyboard" Pala says, "i am disabled. and i have a mechanic left hand that can be programed. its hard to play woith one hand" [Appeal] Bxxxxxxxx: "why is RA first aid cann man i stealth use and not unstealth cann man ra if man use unstealth ?????????" BannedUser: "i was not using automate game action my hand was fall on keyboard during i was sleep .... i was completly fall on keyboard ..."

MotaroReloaded Eagle Knight Posts: 707 Joined: Aug 31, 2010 00:00 Location: London	Reply with quote by MotaroReloaded » Feb 12, 2012 03:16 Blue wrote:You shouldnt get any xp as you got help from too high players. I know its different on live but I'm quite sure its not intended in the original game design. How can u say i got helped?..when they actually ruined my xp! I just explained that dmg done by lvl 50 on the mob or healing the smaller lvl player who kills the mob are the only methods to ruin xp on live. Mezz/root get rps reward in PvP yet in PvE they dont aply. Glacius ( previous acount name) Albion Glacius - WIzzard Disrupter - Armsman

Blue Developer Posts: 15827 Joined: Apr 22, 2005 00:00	Reply with quote by Blue » Feb 12, 2012 04:12 MotaroReloaded wrote:How can u say i got helped?..when they actually ruined my xp! Well then you can also say its no help if the high player kills your mob or heals you when you are at 5% HP. Seriously. A root of a higher player would help you in an emergency situation and you shouldnt get XP for it because of that. But as I said, I know its different on live. It's done when it's done. Thanks for your patience. Every bug gets fixed. Sooner or later. "It is an inescapable law of nature that the amount of satisfaction one gains from achieving something is related to how hard it is and easy things can only elicit a fleeting superficial sort of pleasure." Blue says, "you used macro tools or macro keyboard" Pala says, "i am disabled. and i have a mechanic left hand that can be programed. its hard to play woith one hand" [Appeal] Bxxxxxxxx: "why is RA first aid cann man i stealth use and not unstealth cann man ra if man use unstealth ?????????" BannedUser: "i was not using automate game action my hand was fall on keyboard during i was sleep .... i was completly fall on keyboard ..."

EnsisFerrum Gryphon Knight Posts: 346 Joined: Mar 15, 2010 01:00	Reply with quote by EnsisFerrum » Feb 12, 2012 22:43 EnsisFerrum wrote:Uthgard Behaviour: When a level 50 uses a nondamaging spell on a lvl 5 Monster the Level 5 character killing the Monster receives no experience. Spel: Debuff, Mezz, Root, Disease or similar. Live Behaviour: The Experience Leeched depends on the actual Damage / Heal Values one has contributed to the fight, renderering nondamaging spells not leeching experience. Example: A level 50 pulls a lvl 8 mob out of a thick spawn of aggressives so the lvl 8 not capable of range pulling can conveniently engage and receive 100% experience. EnsisFerrum wrote:here is a link to the forum where this has been reported with videos alread albeit on german the videos proof my point dings Videos down atm.

MotaroReloaded Eagle Knight Posts: 707 Joined: Aug 31, 2010 00:00 Location: London	Reply with quote by MotaroReloaded » Feb 13, 2012 02:57 Blue posted there, thus he knows about the feature, when they l set it ..they ll set it. And a crowd control done by a player of your lvl to help you or by a lvl50 should not leech xp, unless you want to change the game fundaments. Glacius ( previous acount name) Albion Glacius - WIzzard Disrupter - Armsman

Stormus Myrmidon Posts: 126 Joined: Jan 28, 2011 12:23	Reply with quote by Stormus » Feb 13, 2012 11:03 I havent seen any rps rewards for mezzing and healing, Just recently in DF i helped an infil who was outnumbered, i healed him, and he finally won. I didnt get anything for healing him, no rps, we were not grped. So by doing the Good thing I got 0 rps while he got all. If i hadent healed, he would had die and got no rps either. I should have just smite.

borog Phoenix Knight Posts: 1087 Joined: Oct 23, 2008 00:00	Reply with quote by borog » Feb 13, 2012 13:21 i think getting RP's for healing was a good idea on live and encourages healing classes to be more beneficial in RVR. However, there should also be the inclusion of the /nohelp switch so that you can opt out of getting heals from people so you dont get leeched XP. However, as the OP stated, i distinctly remember that i was able to disease AOE pull grey mobs onto my shaman so that a fg of lowbies could level up an area of bad aggro without the worry of adds. My Disease was not counted as damage so didnt leech XP. It was always none damaging or HOT spells did not leech XP, and only full heals or damage did.

Magicco Alerion Knight Posts: 2360 Joined: Aug 01, 2010 00:00	Reply with quote by Magicco » Feb 13, 2012 13:41 borog wrote:However, there should also be the inclusion of the /nohelp switch so that you can opt out of getting heals from people so you dont get leeched XP. lol no, if someone heals you for leeching xp, its the same as mob-hit-leeching (even mythic-support punished both behauviors) if someone helps you in rvr and you dont want "help", its the same like the add-rule, non-existant

borog Phoenix Knight Posts: 1087 Joined: Oct 23, 2008 00:00	Reply with quote by borog » Feb 13, 2012 14:34 As per 1.68 http://support.darkageofcamelot.com/kb/article.php?id=746 NOHELP COMMAND - We have added a new command - /nohelp. A player can use this command to prevent situations where a player outside of his or her group is healing, for the purpose of leeching experience from a monster kill, without their consent. Players can also use this command to decline any assistance from nearby Spheres of Rejuvenation and Fonts of Power. - If /nohelp is active, the following spells and abilities will not affect the player in any way unless the caster is a member of the player's group: All heal spells and regen buffs, the Wave of Healing artifact ability, and the Sphere of Rejuvenation and Font of Power master level abilities. - If a player casts a heal spell on a non-consenting player, the spell will complete, but instead of the actual heal taking effect, the player will be told, "That player does not want assistance", in the upper chat window. - Spell effects will still play over non-consenting players if heal spells, Fonts of Power or Spheres of Rejuvenation try to affect them. It doesn't specifically mention RvR as being affected by this, so its not included. However, it is a feature that was included for our patch level.

MotaroReloaded Eagle Knight Posts: 707 Joined: Aug 31, 2010 00:00 Location: London	Reply with quote by MotaroReloaded » Feb 15, 2012 00:45 borog wrote:As per 1.68 http://support.darkageofcamelot.com/kb/article.php?id=746 NOHELP COMMAND - We have added a new command - /nohelp. A player can use this command to prevent situations where a player outside of his or her group is healing, for the purpose of leeching experience from a monster kill, without their consent. Players can also use this command to decline any assistance from nearby Spheres of Rejuvenation and Fonts of Power. - If /nohelp is active, the following spells and abilities will not affect the player in any way unless the caster is a member of the player's group: All heal spells and regen buffs, the Wave of Healing artifact ability, and the Sphere of Rejuvenation and Font of Power master level abilities. - If a player casts a heal spell on a non-consenting player, the spell will complete, but instead of the actual heal taking effect, the player will be told, "That player does not want assistance", in the upper chat window. - Spell effects will still play over non-consenting players if heal spells, Fonts of Power or Spheres of Rejuvenation try to affect them. It doesn't specifically mention RvR as being affected by this, so its not included. However, it is a feature that was included for our patch level. Yup Glacius ( previous acount name) Albion Glacius - WIzzard Disrupter - Armsman

Xantham Gryphon Knight Posts: 317 Joined: Oct 26, 2008 00:00 Location: Dank Meme Dominon	Reply with quote by Xantham » Feb 15, 2012 21:59 Blue wrote:I know my statement was provoking. We will propably implement that as it was on live servers or it would land on the customized list. ^mfw