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Postby Nymeros » Sep 02, 2010 19:00

DarkKnghtZ wrote:Champs/Reaver/Friar/Warr

Thanes are a joke as their weaponskill table = massive evades for said stealther and with some energy resists their dds arent all that. Their only + is they have hammer for extra damage on inf/ns.

Thanes are far from a joke as they are intentionally bugged on this server. Here they are on the same damage table as, for example, Champions, because the Uthgard Devs seem to think all hybrids belong to a single damage table.

It's the same with Wardens.

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Postby Razzer » Sep 02, 2010 19:18

You ever tested this here ?

I think it's like it should be:
http://www.dethguild.com/daoc/info/info ... ml#anchor8
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Postby Runis » Sep 02, 2010 20:10

I'd say the best anti-stealther on uthgard is merc, due to bugged Dirty Tricks (100% fumble chance on uthgard), it happened to me to do 6 fumbles in a row, couldnt live up to 7th one.

So: merc, friar, bm, solo specced fulltanks (hero warri pala - high moblock etc), solo specced spiritmaster (requires high rr)

Anyway dont have your expectation high, its hard to find ONE stealther here at one point (due to OF) so if you exclude 1v1 and think about 1v2 or more you should consider friar.

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Postby Nymeros » Sep 02, 2010 20:13

Razzer wrote:You ever tested this here ?

I think it's like it should be:
http://www.dethguild.com/daoc/info/info ... ml#anchor8


Yes, it's should be like that but it isn't.

Didn't test it myself but there was a topic a while back where damage multipliers and such were discussed (I think some people were complaining how rangers have too high damage), and Blue (I think it was him, but one of the devs definitely) gave a link to a german site where they listed totally different damage multipliers, and all hybrids were lumped together, and said that that is what Uthgard used.

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Postby Astealoth » Sep 03, 2010 03:46

as shadowblade the hardest things to kill for me 1v1 is friar and a bow specced ranger who knows how to kite/rf really well. that covers enemy realm, as far as mid anti stealth its thane all the way. i dont fight many thane but ive seen some thanes tearing infils and ns into small pieces quite often.

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Postby Fediuld » Nov 22, 2010 15:51

Sorry for reviving the thread, however don't see the point to make new one.

You mentioned champions as good anti-stealth class.
I do have one (my main is one and recently join the server), and I much say that either I'm missing something (RA more likely) or the statement doesn't have ground.

When we have SBs with Dragonmight, no matter the RR, is impossible even for fully kitted Fird Hero to stand more than 2 hits. And more likely be dead before turns to face the enemy. How a Celt Champion can do it?

And that goes to the lack of body collision effect. When you pass through them (after they position themselves) you show your back.

So the only way around is a ranger for Hibernia.


And as for stealthers groups mentioned above, they are everywhere, especially Albion ones (due to Minstrels).

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Postby vangonaj » Nov 22, 2010 17:38

The best anti stealther is other stealther, and in uthgard is ranger.
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Postby Murax » Nov 23, 2010 16:58

best anti stealth is to join/form counter stealth zerg and camp any mg
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Postby Arzt » Nov 27, 2010 20:30

Even if some guys make lolz now, i vote for Smite Cleric! :grin:
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Postby Disdain » Nov 27, 2010 21:34

Smite cleric only works on low rr stealthers.
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Postby Arzt » Nov 27, 2010 21:51

Disdain wrote:Smite cleric only works on low rr stealthers.


What is low rr? What is high rr?

im rr5 and i did a lot Solokills versus rr5-rr8 Stealther today...
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Postby vangonaj » Nov 27, 2010 22:49

Arzt wrote:What is low rr? What is high rr?

im rr5 and i did a lot Solokills versus rr5-rr8 Stealther today...



Skill>>rr
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Postby Arzt » Nov 27, 2010 22:54

Okay add a rr10 SB Solokilled... cant wait to get higher rr by myself and to add Damage increasing RAs... :D
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Postby Disdain » Nov 27, 2010 23:39

vangonaj wrote:Skill>>rr


Purge 3 + garotte spam + 150% chance to evade > skilled cleric. Of course it's possible to kill them when all your dumpables are up, I killed rr7 ones at 4l2, doesn't make a difference when they get into melee range and my pbaoe mez is down or resisted, pretty much dead because you can't hit a stealther on uthgard anyway (lol evaderate).
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Postby Arzt » Nov 27, 2010 23:41

Disdain wrote:
vangonaj wrote:Skill>>rr


Purge 3 + garotte spam + 150% chance to evade > skilled cleric.


thats what all do and 20secs later they need to vanish...

Moc3 + rr5 ftw
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