Eclipsed wrote:why does it feel to me that its archer classes vs the uthgard staff. Arent they suppose to be neutral about classes. Its not hard to see that when a bug agenst archery comes up, the staff and everyone discuss it and talk, fix fix fix. But when its bug fixes , even to bugs that are proven like procs, arrow weight and so on, we get negitive responses from the staff and just have to fight and fight about all this. Now im not saying all the staff and yes we archers, including I can be quiet hostile about all this, but what do you expect. You get beaten down so much with fixes and issues on your class, it well ticks you off after years. If we got some of those archery fixes and some actual considerations at realistic use of archery and how effective it really is in combat and ways to improve that, im sure if all that was done, im sure every archer wouldnt care at all about volley. But its just another tool that actualy was useful that has been taken away and that is why they are upset. To much taking away, not enough love for the archer.

nixian wrote:wrong section

moved to support

Rose wrote:Could be uthgard is strafing toward melee/caster only type of shard. When some one posts a melee bogus problem - it gets attention right away, while archery problems can hang in the air with "it's done when it's done" tag.

Rose wrote:

nixian wrote:wrong section

moved to support

Now it is in the wrong section, as it was a suggestion for Volley bug.

nixian wrote:

Rose wrote:

nixian wrote:wrong section

moved to support

Now it is in the wrong section, as it was a suggestion for Volley bug.

http://uthgard-server.net/modules.php?n ... ic&t=13415

Rose wrote:Extremely custom setting? Isnt tajendi a bit more extreme custom?

Rose wrote:Also, what was the post 1.9x setting? I must have missed something. Please provide a reference to those patchnotes.

Archery (Hunters, Rangers and Scouts)

- Hunters, Rangers and Scouts have been given a forced realm ability and skill specialization respec, and will need to respec their skills for use with the new Archery system.

- The previous Archery system has been disabled for all primary archer classes. Primary archer classes no longer need to place their bow on their hotbar and click multiple times to load and fire their shots.

- Archers have had their unique bow lines replaced with a new line, called "Archery".

- The Pathfinding skill for Rangers has been merged into Archery, and all of the buffs from that line are now found in the Archery line (available to all Archer classes).

- Self buffs in Beastcraft have been replaced with the self buffs in the Archery Spec.

- New archery abilities are now available under the spells tab, under the Archery list.

- Archery damage and draw time are now affected by the Dexterity skill.

- Archery shots now have different Endurance costs depending upon the shot.

- Archery shot types are as follows:

Standard Shot: Average range, draw time and damage.

Long Shot: Longer range, average draw time and slightly lower damage.

Power Shot: Bypasses and removes Bladeturn, average range, long draw time not affected by Dexterity; higher damage.

Point Blank Shot: Very short range, long draw time and high damage.

Critical Shot: Must be fired from stealth, bypasses all defenses, very high damage, average range and average draw time.

Rapid Fire: Average range, short draw time and low damage.

Fire Shot: Heat damage, long draw time and average range.

Cold Shot: Cold damage, long draw time and average range.

Poison Shot: Body damage Direct Damage/Damage Over Time, long draw time and average range.

Acid Shot: Matter damage Direct Damage/Damage Over Time, long draw time and average range.

Siege Shot: Does damage to objects such as Keep Doors and Siege equipment.

Volley: Ground Targeted Area Effect archery shot, that will hit up to a maximum number of targets. The maximum number of targets is 2 more than the number of the shot. IE: Volley 1 will hit three targets max, and Volley 8 will hit 10 targets max.

- Abilities, bonuses and items that affect spells will now also affect Archery.

- Updated icons, sounds and animations have been integrated into the new archery system.

- Archers will receive three new abilities at specializations 1, 2 and 3 in Archery. These abilities allow the player to choose the damage types of their Archery shots, either Slash, Thrust or Crush.

- Heat, cold, acid and poison arrows will ignore the damage type override of the Archery damage type buffs.

- Archers now receive the Mastery of Concentration Realm Ability.

- The Damage Per Second (DPS) of your bow will have an effect on your damage for archery shots. If the effective DPS of your equipped bow is less than that of your max DPS for the level of archery shot you are using, the damage of your shot will be reduced. Max DPS for a particular level can be found by using this equation: (.3 * level) + 1.2

Eclipsed wrote:why does it feel to me that its archer classes vs the uthgard staff. Arent they suppose to be neutral about classes. Its not hard to see that when a bug agenst archery comes up, the staff and everyone discuss it and talk, fix fix fix. [...]

Ezek wrote:It can't work that way.


In my personal opinion, Volley is now a lot more like it was on the live servers than it was with the previous implementation (possibly 35% hit chance is still too high though).

I don't think any archer on the live servers would have stunned/zephyred his victim and then volley him instead of critshotting/quickshotting.

Glacius wrote:

Ezek wrote:It can't work that way.


In my personal opinion, Volley is now a lot more like it was on the live servers than it was with the previous implementation (possibly 35% hit chance is still too high though).

I don't think any archer on the live servers would have stunned/zephyred his victim and then volley him instead of critshotting/quickshotting.

Damn true!....and they still QQ.

Ezek wrote:It can't work that way.

If there is a bug, it is fixed, sooner or later.