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Postby Glacius » Feb 06, 2010 21:55

bawww wrote:Yes, everyone has basalt drops they are handed out in front of camelot, you just need to find the right npc.


Ha f ing ha .. i sure laughed, its hard to kill DF named mobs or?:P

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Postby Musikus » Feb 07, 2010 01:16

Glacius wrote:
bawww wrote:Yes, everyone has basalt drops they are handed out in front of camelot, you just need to find the right npc.


Ha f ing ha .. i sure laughed, its hard to kill DF named mobs or?:P


no its not hard..but those drops you talk about are one of the rares basalts somehow..
and in mid are also slow offhands dropped (4.0 speed) and i also found a sword dropped with 4.3 mainhand..

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Postby Toblerone » Feb 07, 2010 01:51

Glacius wrote:Jump merc is slash spec also,not usre what weapons he has but he never hited me for more then 260 , while that half ogre merc slash also did 340 , its a dif :)


Jump only uses amethyst slash tho and probably doesn't have any other style on his hotbar, that ogre merc used positional styles. Style growth has a lot to do with it too.

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Postby Glacius » Feb 07, 2010 02:38

Toblerone wrote:
Glacius wrote:Jump merc is slash spec also,not usre what weapons he has but he never hited me for more then 260 , while that half ogre merc slash also did 340 , its a dif :)


Jump only uses amethyst slash tho and probably doesn't have any other style on his hotbar, that ogre merc used positional styles. Style growth has a lot to do with it too.

Jump doesnt have those weps and if its not 50 slash spec and uses ametist slash he looses style dmg, he s dumb.. :P Bloodsz used DW styles wich dont affect him beeing under 50 slash spec.

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Postby danteafk » Feb 07, 2010 13:08

lets do a movie about jump and the weapons albion uses :[

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Postby Corwinn » Feb 07, 2010 14:32

Jumps movie would be in the same area as the DG skald one.

Ohh and /b/ fag! :D
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Postby Azorias » Jan 20, 2012 11:15

Damage are amazing low than live and that's all. There is something to do here.
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Postby Rector » Jan 20, 2012 12:24

Hit the lvl50 doll for 5 minutes with endubuff and use this to compare the dps: http://blutrausch-uthgard.de/tnt/dmgcalc/index.php

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Postby Magicco » Jan 20, 2012 12:51

i dont know what u made wrong @Azorias

a bm hits often more damage than my merc if he makes his positional triocombo (way higher GR than DW has)
maybe you should try a splitspec? it works very very nice
42shield
50dual
30thrust
30slash
even with rr4-7 your "low" weaponlines getting outdamaged by resistance weak armors

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Postby Azorias » Jan 20, 2012 14:21

I have test on a mage friend (my spec 50 pierce 50 dual atm) with taunt I do with right hand 148-198 and I don't understand why with 50+14 I have a so big difference (50 damage). Your tri spec seems to be very nice but with 30 slash and 30 pierce I will have lowest damage than 50 no?

PS : with a builder i can ony do 50 dual 42 shield 27 pierce 27 blade.
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Postby Magicco » Jan 20, 2012 14:34

Azorias wrote:I have test on a mage friend (my spec 50 pierce 50 dual atm) with taunt I do with right hand 148-198 and I don't understand why with 50+14 I have a so big difference (50 damage). Your tri spec seems to be very nice but with 30 slash and 30 pierce I will have lowest damage than 50 no?

PS : with a builder i can ony do 50 dual 42 shield 27 pierce 27 blade.


Well difference between a Damagespell and Melee is that your damagespell has nearly or no variance (if it is 50 (36+14, 49+1)
but melee has always variance (the variance windows is getting smaller and smaller and your style damage is also increasing getting 50+xx)

I decided to to make this splitspec, cause the bigger variance window is smaller than the damage i do against resistance-weak armors and its nice, armsman also works great with it.
Why 50 pierce AND 50 CD? If you only use CD-styles there is no need to raise pierce to 50+xx, and CD has high utility-styles (crazy damage sidechain with stun, rear-snare ...)

Hm Merc can achieve 30/30 out of full autotrain

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Postby MotaroReloaded » Jan 20, 2012 18:00

Magicco wrote:
Azorias wrote:I have test on a mage friend (my spec 50 pierce 50 dual atm) with taunt I do with right hand 148-198 and I don't understand why with 50+14 I have a so big difference (50 damage). Your tri spec seems to be very nice but with 30 slash and 30 pierce I will have lowest damage than 50 no?

PS : with a builder i can ony do 50 dual 42 shield 27 pierce 27 blade.


Well difference between a Damagespell and Melee is that your damagespell has nearly or no variance (if it is 50 (36+14, 49+1)
but melee has always variance (the variance windows is getting smaller and smaller and your style damage is also increasing getting 50+xx)

I decided to to make this splitspec, cause the bigger variance window is smaller than the damage i do against resistance-weak armors and its nice, armsman also works great with it.
Why 50 pierce AND 50 CD? If you only use CD-styles there is no need to raise pierce to 50+xx, and CD has high utility-styles (crazy damage sidechain with stun, rear-snare ...)

Hm Merc can achieve 30/30 out of full autotrain


Once you are composite spec 51 , variance will be 100-141% even if you spec more into it..its not smaller and smaller:)
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Postby Magicco » Jan 20, 2012 18:36

hmm strange... i dont know really how is it on uth,

but in my "experience" if a rr10+ enemy hits you with a weaponline that has 50+21 there is no/very small variance

blue stated in one Thread, where someone asked what 50+xx helps, Blue said the damage increases and the variance getting different

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Postby MotaroReloaded » Jan 20, 2012 18:48

Magicco wrote:hmm strange... i dont know really how is it on uth,

but in my "experience" if a rr10+ enemy hits you with a weaponline that has 50+21 there is no/very small variance

blue stated in one Thread, where someone asked what 50+xx helps, Blue said the damage increases and the variance getting different



Variance 100-141% will always be, if its diferent then its a bug , yet if you are 50+21 spec your min and max dmg will be higher then the min and max of a player with 51 composite spec . If your spec is under 51 composite beeing lvl 50 then you are in the area of 25%-125% variance where the 125% is about the same number as the 100% from 100-141% .
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Postby Azorias » Jan 24, 2012 17:03

New test on tir na nog dolls : I hit severals time the 50 doll with supernova the results is that I hit the doll between 171 to 244.
WTF? ^^ as i'm 50 + 14 pierce and 50 + 14 dual :) why it is not more regular (something like 220-230-240, 220-230-240 etc...)
I really don't understand that.
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