Classic Icon Sets for Uthgard ???

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Postby Eclipsed » Dec 12, 2009 05:50

well at one point i know the old icon fix that mythic gave, did work. It was basicly CBT_500.bmp, CBT_600.bmp, CBT_700.bmp, and CBT_800.bmp which is the combat style sets. And they where correct, but after mythic updates there clients and add new styles and change things around, they screwed up there classic icon fix, of what i read somewhere on the herald.

But yes recenltly on live the classic icons are now screwed up too, and a few has been moved around on uthgard i noticed. Like my manual fixed iconsets had pierc, cd, scythe and blunt all corrected, but after last fix it only screwed up the blunt styles by alot.

Now i got a question, i know the old icons sets are assigned to the CBT_X00.bmp ones, now is the new icons also assigned to the same bmp file names or has mythic assigned diffrent iconsets for newer icon sets. I ask because i noticed the new icons seems to be right, but if you compare that to the old icon sets they are way off. I noticed in the game directiory in icons, there is some called combat1_b.bmp and so on. Are those the new icon sets and does the game client assign two diff icon set assignments for new icons and old icons. If so, that is why its bugged on uthgard. Just have to fix the custom icon assignment, if it works that way. For now im just going to manualy edit them again, to fix what i need.
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Postby Rector » Dec 12, 2009 12:57

Standard Old Icons by mythic after 1.89
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Before 1.89, or after 1.89 manually edited
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Postby Nymeros » Dec 12, 2009 13:01

I think old Staff style icons are mostly (if not all) correct, but I'm not sure as I don't have new style screens to test.

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Postby vangonaj » Dec 12, 2009 13:34

Nymeros wrote:I think old Staff style icons are mostly (if not all) correct, but I'm not sure as I don't have new style screens to test.


XD if you say correct after see Rector´s screens you need glases. Don´t offend. :grin:

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Postby Nymeros » Dec 12, 2009 14:43

No, I meant Staff as Staff for Friars. :)

There are a few I know are wrong but I think most are right. Can't compare to anything though.

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Postby vangonaj » Dec 12, 2009 14:56

Y seems the problem doesn´t affect weapons, only spels and stiles.

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Postby Eclipsed » Dec 12, 2009 19:34

No he means the actual friar line staff styles. But anyway here is the blade line up to 39 spec and CD line up to 18 spec with and without manual fixing.

Image of Blades and Celtic Dual with out Fixes and as is with the classic icon set provided by mythic awhile ago. Missing positional bmp file, so no position marks are shown, since they are way off with it.

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Image of Blades and Celtic Dual with Manual Fixing and imbedded positional marks on Icon set.

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As you can see the styles are way off and of what i read mythic isnt supporting the classic icons anymore, but i do think uthgard should, being a classic server. Im not sure if it is possible to make a server side fix, but i hope so. I know one issue is that some icons share the same tile number for some reason, even though they are totaly diffrent icons. Like an icon in blade line that uses the same tile number as one in Piercing. Totaly diff icons, but currently you have to pick ether the blade or pierc icon. And there prob is even more icons that share the same tile number with classic icons.
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Postby Eclipsed » Dec 12, 2009 19:58

I also made a Iconset Tile Id bmp's to help identify where these icons are located. Here is the iconset for CBT_500.bmp.

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As you can see i numbered them all in order from 1 to 99, and i changed the color background for each tile set icon, like cbt_500 has a black background, cbt_600 has a blue background, cbt_700 has a purple background and cbt_800 has a pink background, but all numbered from 1-99. So if one of your ingame styles is 34 with a blue background, that would be found on cbt_600 and the 34th icon. Here is what my blade and CD specs lines are, what there icon tile numbers are.

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And that icon with blue 34, shares blue 34 with a piercing icon also, or it use to before the patch on uthgard, i havent gone back yet to check, but origenaly when i did these , long time ago, there was a conflict with having pierc and blades fixes on the same tile sets because of blue 34.
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Postby Eclipsed » Dec 12, 2009 21:02

Actualy i took a look at pierc and blades again and it seems i can put them in the same fix, but blade style 44 and 50 intersect with 2 pierc styles.

Blade style 44 intersects with pierc style 2 , a possible fix since lvl style 2 is crap

Blade style 50 intersects with pierc style 4, which is a rear positional and is used, so cant be replaced

Also since recent uthgard patch, rapid fire and volley share the same icon id, unlike before. But even before i had to manualy fix these icons to be the currect icons, but they where not the same id on the tiles, like they are now, i hope that will be fixed.
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Postby Rector » Dec 12, 2009 21:04

Sureshot, skill @45 Composite Bow, has a book icon on Uthgard.

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Postby Eclipsed » Dec 12, 2009 21:27

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Looking at the blunt line, i notice that is where i seen issues. Its blunt that intersects with blade icon at 34 blue. Blunt icons up to lvl 18 spec has 5 icon ids that share with blades also.

https://www.yousendit.com/download/MVNk ... NUxIRGc9PQ

Here is a zip file with All style and spell icon sets as colored numbers, like above, to help locate incurrect icon and what id they are and what image they are on. Just put it in your custom folder, after backing up any custom ones you have alrdy and start the game. Your styles and spells will tell you which icon set that style belongs to, by the color, which relates to the file and number which relates to which icon on the file. If your confused, this icon stuff is too technical for you. Maybe this could help the staff, im not sure but its what i use to help find what icons i need to manualy change, by looking at the ids, and a normal icon set to see what should go where. Also helps locate icons that share same id's currectly or incorrectly
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Postby Blue » Dec 12, 2009 21:30

I thought about introducing classic icon set flag for whole accounts. Uthgard could send a different icon id if the account is flagged for old icons. Would be some work to correct all style lines though.

Thanks for numbered BMP's. This is useful.
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Postby Eclipsed » Dec 12, 2009 21:52

yep np. And ya that does sound like a good idea. And to make the currections for old icons, you could use the provided icon sets by mythic of classic icons with out markers on them, unless you can find a tile set with 1.8 or 1.65 markers. But anyway in the case of using the mythic provided ones, you would have to change the Blade line icon set ids from the current to

CBT_600.bmp ( Icon Id 19 to 33 ) since they seem to all be in order ) All you would have to add is the currect markers and provide these tile sets with the currect markers to everyone on uthgard, by way of mod.

Only problem im seeing is that it looks like some of the classic icons share the same icons of diff style lines because they have same icon image, only diff is the color they should be. Maybe the client can change the icons color. Example is the blunt line. The provided icon set by mythic only has like 8 icons, the rest i guess you get from other lines, just the client changes the color to that purple color, im guessing. Have fun working that one out, and finding away to add the markers to the icons if they do share icons.

Unless you just want to make a custom icon set, for uthgard flagged accounts, which i think would work better, just have to find an older icon set with all styles icons and spells. If someone could find a icon set from 1.65 or 1.8, that would make things alot easyer. Then all youd have to do is link the server side with the client side icon ids
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Postby Eclipsed » Dec 13, 2009 06:37

All i could find for older icons is from a cd i had, with a full cata install and DR upgrade to 1.83.
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Postby vangonaj » Dec 13, 2009 19:08

I found this in one daoc forum:


Guide for mode:


http://mythicmktg.fileburst.com/daoc/us ... guides.zip


Know anyone any guide page with abilities and correspondent icons?

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