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Postby Glacius » Mar 08, 2010 01:16

I just fought a warden recently and i have some issues about this class performing here on uthgard.

By the fights i had with him i can say he is 50 blunt spec because he stuned me 2 times wit hthe after pary lvl 39 and 50 styles in blunt. That leaves him having 43 max Nurture spec wich gives him 8 sec pbt .

I had 4.2 spd mainh axe and 4.0 offh axe , 173 quicnes and 17% haste when i fought him , and i still missed because of his pbt 2 styles in a row , in 2 diferent fights.

He is 6L8 and he has ip2 and aotg2 leaving him 28 points to use for other RA s such as mastery of parry because moblock he cannot take .

My question is how come i missed 2 stiles in a row vs a 8 sec pbt? Bladeturn offensive proc for crafted weapons or even from drops as far as i know there isnt here .

Fight 1
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Fight 2
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The block parry rate for classes that canot even spec in shield , cause in parry warden can spec we all know its off the boards here on uthg, about this i will make another thread later when i will have suficient data from live and uthg.

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Postby Chrissi » Mar 08, 2010 02:00

PLEASE give Glacius a WARLOCK I'm really tired of these Topics !!!!

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Postby Toblerone » Mar 08, 2010 02:04

Some daoc basics for you motaro:

1.) he has castable BT which lasts indefinitely until broken
2.) PBT applies right after castable BT is broken
3.) PBT can be twisted like any chant so it applies right after it's been activated, thus can absorb 2 hits in a row easily
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Postby Joint-Operations » Mar 08, 2010 02:05

realize that he´s better than you, mr doublefrost ^^

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Postby BlackCougar » Mar 08, 2010 02:06

/toberlone mode on
jap, wardens are totally OPed.
about time they get nerfed

/toberlone mode off

it ticks ans is active. you break it just 1-2 seconds before the next tick / it runs out.
after that you have the full tick time to hit before the next one comes active.

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Postby Glacius » Mar 08, 2010 02:09

Toblerone wrote:Some daoc basics for you motaro:

1.) he has castable BT which lasts indefinitely until broken
2.) PBT applies right after castable BT is broken
3.) PBT can be twisted like any chant so it applies right after it's been activated, thus can absorb 2 hits in a row easily


I had theurg pbt and some of these were not able to make, i l have a look on live .
There is a recast of 16 seconds for pbt too.

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Postby Lornur » Mar 08, 2010 02:13

glacius remember that pally switch chant? the same for warden, probably sanzaes play this way better than other....
don´t let yourself fool from Old RA´s and people
who say they will be good for the server.
they are NO solution..
SAY NO TO OLD RA´s!!
SAY NO TO 1.69!!
do NOT support that obviously wrong way in any way!! (source Musikus)
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Postby Neju » Mar 08, 2010 02:14

Glacius wrote:There is a recast of 16 seconds for pbt too.


where did you hear that from?
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Postby Glacius » Mar 08, 2010 02:15

Neju wrote:
Glacius wrote:There is a recast of 16 seconds for pbt too.


where did you hear that from?


from here http://daoc.catacombs.com/cbuilder2.cfm?Warden

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Postby Neju » Mar 08, 2010 02:19

warden pbt...

dont talk about theurg pbt and then mention recast :grin:

but ye, its just the single bladeturn and the pbt.. thats why it absorbed 2 hits, and can be twisted during combat the absorb more hits
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Postby Glacius » Mar 08, 2010 02:27

Neju wrote:warden pbt...

dont talk about theurg pbt and then mention recast :grin:

but ye, its just the single bladeturn and the pbt.. thats why it absorbed 2 hits, and can be twisted during combat the absorb more hits


I gave you link from warden pbt. And theurg pbt..warden pbt,rm pbt its the same thing, and its 16 seconds RECAST for PBT , i have to spell it again for you.

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Postby Toblerone » Mar 08, 2010 02:30

Glacius wrote:
Toblerone wrote:Some daoc basics for you motaro:

1.) he has castable BT which lasts indefinitely until broken
2.) PBT applies right after castable BT is broken
3.) PBT can be twisted like any chant so it applies right after it's been activated, thus can absorb 2 hits in a row easily


I had theurg pbt and some of these were not able to make, i l have a look on live .
There is a recast of 16 seconds for pbt too.


Yes and he can twist it once every 16 seconds, what's your point ?

BlackCougar wrote:/toberlone mode on
jap, wardens are totally OPed.
about time they get nerfed

/toberlone mode off


Way to be a clueless m*ron. I just drew him a picture of how pbt works, I never said wardens are OPed, in fact I know they suck I own a rr5 one.
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Postby Glacius » Mar 08, 2010 02:40

i m curious if the timer for it its set corectly, and if he has 8 s pbt..or 10s pbt, because with my bufs i was somewhere around 2.9 spd .
There s another problem,the blockrate for clases with no shield spec, when i mised on bt he blocked or paried alot wich is not ok, i m prety sure it doesnt work how it should.
Just look at the first screenshot, its repeating..over and over on all 3 fights.

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Postby Nymeros » Mar 08, 2010 03:24

Twisting pbt has been around since forever, plus add to that his castable bt which is most probably what happened to you in the screenshot.

The blockrate for all classes without a shield spec has been unnaturally high since the blockrate fix, this isn't a warden issue but buffs just make it more noticeable. You should see how much I block on my friar when I switch to my shield. ^^

He would probably defeat you anyway, since he should parry 200% more then he does now as Parry is bugged against dual wield atm.

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Postby Glacius » Mar 08, 2010 03:38

Nymeros wrote:Twisting pbt has been around since forever, plus add to that his castable bt which is most probably what happened to you in the screenshot.

The blockrate for all classes without a shield spec has been unnaturally high since the blockrate fix, this isn't a warden issue but buffs just make it more noticeable. You should see how much I block on my friar when I switch to my shield. ^^

He would probably defeat you anyway, since he should parry 200% more then he does now as Parry is bugged against dual wield atm.


Parry buged against DW now? would u look at the pics i made..he parried in a row.

Also, i d like to know what recast time we have on PBT here on uth.

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