first: removing Z-axis check on shrooms

- i know theres some bug abuses where you can make them unattackable

but isn't this a bad way to fix it? imagine a shroom put up on that small wallpath in keeps and melees are now able to beat on them while being on the ground? afaik shrooms will now be attackable from any hight as long as you are in range and has LOS



second: reactionaries now has a max 3 second window - does this mean its changed to the 1.82 way where you can use reactionaries no matter what happens as long as its within the 3second window?

1. Its quite unfair that shrooms can be placed in a way that you can't attack them in melee. Removing Z-checks is a balancing act. I don't see problems with that. No problems that are worse than before.

2. Yes. We had quite some problems with exploit possibilities. Introducing the 3 sec time window is the ideal solution to fix all problems at once. But, the time window expires immediately if your target made another attack, changing the last attack result. If someone attacks you with 2 second swing timer, you will have only 2 seconds to react. On the other side, if someone attacks you with a 5 second swing timer, you would have only 3 seconds to react instead 5.

sweet ty for answers blue


and nice way for staff to implement the "new" reactionary system

also i understand the animist change but I dont think this is the best way to "fix" it

better then bannin ppl for setting groundtargets too high because they cant place the shrooms any other way to have any use out of them.


altough i seem to have missed the changelog on that - does it mean that you can attack the shrooms no matter how high there where placed?

if so, in free field that solves all the problems. but can you now stand below a shroom placed on eg a bridge or up on a wall and attack it?

Yes its indeed the case that you can attack a shroom from below that sits on top of a bridge or a wall. This is a compromise to the previous problem of not being able to attack at all.

i can live with that.
maybe it can be even used as bait.


thx for explaining.