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Shield size and guard in RvR

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Musikus Phoenix Knight Posts: 1753 Joined: Jul 22, 2007 00:00 Location: Achau (bei Wien)	Reply with quote by Musikus » Oct 11, 2009 22:53 great...that explains why my scout guards other player better than she guard herself.. very selfless acting but i like it.

Funzel Myrmidon Posts: 81 Joined: Jan 08, 2009 01:00	Reply with quote by Funzel » Oct 28, 2009 16:49 yap... blocking 4 yourself is much harder than saving a grp-mate and yes, i can confirm thats like live.

Akip Alerion Knight Posts: 2123 Joined: May 04, 2006 00:00	Reply with quote by Akip » Feb 22, 2013 01:32 bump

borog Phoenix Knight Posts: 1087 Joined: Oct 23, 2008 00:00	Reply with quote by borog » Feb 22, 2013 14:52 what was the point in bumping this? no work needs to be done on it. dammit i just bumped it too

poplik Phoenix Knight Posts: 1710 Joined: May 02, 2006 00:00	Reply with quote by poplik » Feb 22, 2013 15:00 Apparently shield size does matter when you guard on uthgard Vids: Unicum I - youtube Unicum II - youtube youtube channel

Akip Alerion Knight Posts: 2123 Joined: May 04, 2006 00:00	Reply with quote by Akip » Feb 22, 2013 15:22 it does alot, 3 attackers mainhand - guarded with smallshield, ~40% blockrate 3 attackers mainhand - guarded with big shield, ~80% blockrate 3 attackers main+off - guarded with smallshield, ~10% blockrate 3 attackers main+off - guarded with big shield, ~ 40% blockrate thats just my personal feel though maybe a gm could give us some intel?

HulkGris Phoenix Knight Posts: 1256 Joined: Jan 23, 2012 19:48	Reply with quote by HulkGris » Feb 22, 2013 19:30 Akip wrote:it does alot, 3 attackers mainhand - guarded with smallshield, ~40% blockrate 3 attackers mainhand - guarded with big shield, ~80% blockrate 3 attackers main+off - guarded with smallshield, ~10% blockrate 3 attackers main+off - guarded with big shield, ~ 40% blockrate thats just my personal feel though maybe a gm could give us some intel? A GM already did and didn't confirm your feelings: Blue wrote:From the code: Guard is influenced by shield size but only the attackers on the Guarder itself count not the guarded group member. This is propably incorrect. So if the guarder has no attacker on himself and the guarded group member 10 enemies, the guarder will block every enemy with no penalty. Sounds like a bug to me, at least thats what I read from the code. Edit: koruun wrote that this is live like. On the other hand, if i take a look at the DoL sources version 2007 i donwloaded, it's the opposite, it takes the number of attackers of the guarded, and the shield size of the guarder is checked to apply a penalty. Delta between DoL and Uthgard, wrong reading of Blue, wrong feeling of Akip, or maybe fixed since this old post made by Blue (Oct 11, 2009) ? RIP : Ectoplasme My own version of Uthgard Character Builder

Akip Alerion Knight Posts: 2123 Joined: May 04, 2006 00:00	Reply with quote by Akip » Feb 22, 2013 19:50 or maybe wrong and got lost in all the bugfixes of the shieldline (supportes blocking 80% of all attacks in agramon) but thats not the point, im sorry that you aren't german lupold made a post about it, confirming my feelings

Raggnar Gryphon Knight Posts: 475 Joined: Aug 18, 2011 17:36	Reply with quote by Raggnar » Feb 25, 2013 00:22 Akip wrote:it does alot, 3 attackers mainhand - guarded with smallshield, ~40% blockrate 3 attackers mainhand - guarded with big shield, ~80% blockrate 3 attackers main+off - guarded with smallshield, ~10% blockrate 3 attackers main+off - guarded with big shield, ~ 40% blockrate thats just my personal feel though maybe a gm could give us some intel? Well, thank the heavens for brimstone shield then xD. "He was concerned only with the naked fundamentals of life. The warm intimacies of small, kindly things, the sentiments and delicious trivialities that make up so much of civilized men's lives were meaningless to him. A wolf was no less a wolf because a whim of chance caused him to run with the watch-dogs. Bloodshed and violence and savagery were the natural elements of the life Conan knew; he could not, and would never, understand the little things that are so dear to civilized men and women."

Ginsu Myrmidon Posts: 157 Joined: Dec 15, 2011 17:07	Reply with quote by Ginsu » Feb 27, 2013 19:17 Raggnar wrote:Well, thank the heavens for brimstone shield then xD. I agree and glad I got mine! It's Glorius by Blue » Jun 19, 2012 15:56 PS: Ginsu, if this is not a serious question and more a troll attempt you will get a ban next time as I don't like if somebody wastes our time with such questions.

Netchel Gryphon Knight Posts: 365 Joined: Aug 15, 2010 00:00	Reply with quote by Netchel » Mar 01, 2013 22:08 it is livelike that gaurd has no caps and shield size doesnt matter. on live i could go to dartmoor (back before new darmoor) and guard for a smite cleric, and have them pull every pony and giant in the place. with just blue d/q and base dex my scout could reach 100% block rate guarding the cleric. and yet 2 ponies on me and id start taking dmg.

isocleas2 Gryphon Knight Posts: 332 Joined: Apr 11, 2016 22:13	Reply with quote by isocleas2 » Feb 08, 2018 18:29 Bump. Was having a debate with another player about this very question. Small shield = large shield when guarding someone? Same chance to block? I've always assumed large shield only mattered if i was blocking for myself against multiple opponents and that when guarding it didn't matter what shield i was using.