Statcaps on Uthgard 2.0

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Gerbald
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Postby Gerbald » Apr 27, 2016 10:07

I am reading old patchnotes right now and i stumbled about this:

[i]"Dark Age of Camelot
Version 1.45 Release Notes
February 7, 2002

NEW THINGS AND BUG FIXES

- Stats are now "clamped" at 300 (i.e. 300 is the most that any one stat can be buffed) as far as the underlying buff effect is concerned. Previously, the clamp was at 250, so now you can get an extra 50 points added to a stat when it is buffed."[/i]

I can't find a later note stating that this cap was raised or removed, but i remember having stats with more than 300 on Uthgard 1.0.

Can anyone help me out with more information?

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Postby Gerbald » May 01, 2016 06:44

Nobody knows?
This bugs me a bit, because i can't seem to dig up any information myself.
Still trying to find an answer.

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Postby Top » May 01, 2016 07:20

Can't find more info? How hard did you look :lol:

viewtopic.php?f=9&t=16418

Here's some excerpts.

Blue wrote:There is no hardcap for stats on Uthgard.


Satz wrote:Also, how stats work:

1st, melee, strength or (strength+dexterity)/2
Your damage is raised by your stats in a complex way. Lets say 1 dmg per 1 stat to avoid complex formulas.
All your stats below 101 increase your dmg by 1, all your stats between 101 and 202 increase your dmg by 0,75, all your stats between 202 and 303 increase your dmg by 0,5, all your stats between 303 and 404 increase your dmg by 0,25, all your stats above 405 no longer affect your dmg.
These values arent 100% correct, but its just a picture for you to help you calculate a little.

2nd, combatspeed, quickness
Linear up to 250, then it stops and does no longer increase your combatspeed.

3rd, castdmg, intelligence, piety or charisma
is linear, the more int/piety/cha the higher dmg. These values also increase your manapool by a little.

4th, castspeed, dexterity
increases linear up to 250. Every point above 250 counts 1,33 times more than below 250, and castspeed caps somewhere around 410dex. Since casttime always varies a little(its never solid), this was always hard to test, but 2/5 of delve casttime and/or 1 second are the two castspeedcaps.
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Postby Nezix » May 01, 2016 07:25

Note that says "that a stat can be buffed". I assume this doesn't count your base starting stats.

It's pretty common DAoC knowledge that stats like STR had a 400 "hard cap" - of course if you're over it helps vs debuffs, but in classic this is pretty much only for Trolls.

Troll Zerk for example: +15 at creation = 160 at 50.
+155 (max buffs spells)
+75 (items)
= 390

If you had Aug Str 2 or higher you could actually get past 400.
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Postby Gerbald » May 01, 2016 08:55

Thank you both for answering and giving Information, some of this was new for me.

But i am still looking for some official Information about how Stat Caps worked with patch 1.65.
All i found in the official Patchnotes was, that prior to Patch 1.45 The clamped Statcap was 250 and with patch 1.45 that Cap was raised to 300.
Sadly after this is don't find any official Information.

EDIT: Yes, i have seen that old thread from 2010, but that was another Uthgard and another patch level. That's why i am asking how it was with patch 1.65 and how it will be on a new Uthgard Server that wants to be as close to 1.65 as possible.

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Postby Top » May 01, 2016 09:19

Nezix answered what you're asking though in relation to official daoc.

At this patch level you can get

155 from buffs
75 from template
30 from aug RA

That is 260...which is higher than their previous cap of 250. So they raised it to 300 and it's no longer an issue after that patch.

Gerbald wrote: i have seen that old thread from 2010, but that was another Uthgard and another patch level. That's why i am asking how it was with patch 1.65 and how it will be on a new Uthgard Server that wants to be as close to 1.65 as possible.


There's nothing to change though, neither patch level can go above 300 so having that cap there (or not in Uth's case) is irrelevant oO
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Postby Gerbald » May 01, 2016 09:43

Oh, i understand now and i feel stupid.
Thanks for clearing that up.
So 300 is not the highest value you can have, but only the value you can get from buffs.
I misunderstood that then.

So a Troll starts with 100 Str, can get +18 at creation, then +45 from levels and then 260 from buffs and Aug Str which gets him to 423 and thats the highest theoretical Stat Value to be obtained on Uthgard 2.0? (Hope its right this time)

EDIT:
so the theoretical max stats are:
STR: 100(Troll)+18+45+75+155+30= 423 str
CON: 80(Dwarf)+18+23+75+155+30= 381 con
DEX: 80(Lurikeen)+18+45+75+155+30= 403 dex
QUI: 80(Lurikeen)+18+23+75+92+30= 318 qui


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