Ronian wrote:No, I spoke to some high rank NS players in the past and we came to the conclusion that PA cap is higher here on Uthgard (I had a NS on live, blade critspec with 4.3 weapon and had a lower crit cap).

M8ty i ve calculated cap dmg with PA onlive in 1st post and its huge if u look , i dont have a ns to check cap dmg for PA on uthg to see if its true what u r saying, yet its not the cap dmg that i QQ about, its the actual dmg they make . Cap PA dmg can be calculated like i did in my first post .

Im not going to claim the damage is lower or higher for critstrike on Uthgard comapred to live.

However, even if it is higher, I think it should stay that way since critstrikes are completely random. (Refering to the from stealth ones) I REALLY REALLY wish I had a licensed version of fraps so I could record a session ofmy gaming. Just 2 days ago I had 3 occasions where targets were clearly in the proper set up.

2 Seperate (1 sham, 1 healer) were standing still, not moving. When I attempted to perf, it claimed they werent in view, but my offhand swung..... huh?

3rd toon was a ranger climbing a ladder. I was on the ledge facing the ladder, and when I tried to backstab him... IN THE BACK, it said I failed to perform it properly. Ive not had that problem on live, ever. If styles only work 65% of the time they should, then the damage they do should be big, especially given the fact they are 1 time deals, and ify ou miss, youre at huge disadvantage than if they worked right.

On a totally unrelated note, Glacius, I noticed you talked to Galadrial (or whatever his name is) the skald. Since we arent allowed to badmouth people on these forums, Id just like you to tell him what the albs ARENT saying. No one is saying "Wow that guy sure is a good player. What with all those xp'ers hes farmed, and all the times HES started a fight then Sos'd away... hes got to be the best."

DarkKnghtZ wrote:Im not going to claim the damage is lower or higher for critstrike on Uthgard comapred to live.

However, even if it is higher, I think it should stay that way since critstrikes are completely random. (Refering to the from stealth ones) I REALLY REALLY wish I had a licensed version of fraps so I could record a session ofmy gaming. Just 2 days ago I had 3 occasions where targets were clearly in the proper set up.

2 Seperate (1 sham, 1 healer) were standing still, not moving. When I attempted to perf, it claimed they werent in view, but my offhand swung..... huh?

3rd toon was a ranger climbing a ladder. I was on the ledge facing the ladder, and when I tried to backstab him... IN THE BACK, it said I failed to perform it properly. Ive not had that problem on live, ever. If styles only work 65% of the time they should, then the damage they do should be big, especially given the fact they are 1 time deals, and ify ou miss, youre at huge disadvantage than if they worked right.

On a totally unrelated note, Glacius, I noticed you talked to Galadrial (or whatever his name is) the skald. Since we arent allowed to badmouth people on these forums, Id just like you to tell him what the albs ARENT saying. No one is saying "Wow that guy sure is a good player. What with all those xp'ers hes farmed, and all the times HES started a fight then Sos'd away... hes got to be the best."

If you cant PA its your problem i ve seen players like Muerte, Seppel ,Tristaluna and others who do pull off PA s, and i will not accept PA doing with 25% + more dmg here then on live ..because thats how the numbers are .

OFFTOPIC : About Galandriel skald ..yes i talked with him because his guild adds fights even when i had a 1 vs 1 in Odin's and they are actually proud of it,they also managed to ban 2-3 players who got ****** off cause of their adding and on top of that they got the nerve to ask what happended with the banned players when they see you ..so stay calm ..mids dont like em either because they show no skill and honor.

I dont think you read my post carefully Glacius. I said the targets were standing still and not moving. I was standing directly in front of them. I was perfing on live at about 90-95% of moving targets. Theres no reason why I get "target not in view" errors but my offhand swings. This isnt a failure to perform it properly. If I backstabbed someones face, thats my problem, if I perf an unmoving target who is facing me but I fail because he is not in view.... Id have to point the finger elsewhere on that one.

I get target not in view often when playing casters and hunter when target is clearly in view. Target is not moving and I have stopped moving as well.

I can reproduce this bug on dummies in Jord. I tend to think anything like this has to do with my crappy ISP I get pings 500ms- 2000ish ms.

IF you got lagg or spikes its nobody 's fault , thats the reason i cant play caster here .
And i m not discusing issues about performing PA here, this thread is about its dmg.

I don't think lag spikes are the problem with you m8ty.

Glacius wrote:IF you got lagg or spikes its nobody 's fault , thats the reason i cant play caster here .

I m diging dead ppl again ) an old post of mine .. i wonder if we could do something with the PA and all the other styles from CS , i know that there s no developer from the staff around but if we could find the problem so we have them set when one will come would be great.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/33 ... kstab.jpg/

474 dmg with backstab NS VS Berseker how much for he does PA then?? .. combined with viper 3 and a wrong dmg table for all stealthers no wonder all sbs infs ns are rr9 in 6 months:) .. i wonder when we l get PA and Backstab corected?

no stealther are just all that good, thats why they win every fight uthgard loves stealther, even more than live

pweet wrote:no stealther are just all that good, thats why they win every fight uthgard loves stealther, even more than live

When on uth u backstab for 470 dmg with no variance and on live for 330 max with variance until 240 , its caled overpowered not good.

ok, if you have determined the style used based entirely on the message *Your movement is slowed* then, check right above it, you will notice he is diseased which also slows movement.

What is the condition of the 2 armor pieces hit in the first screen shot?

Is it possible you swapped gloves out for haste charge?

Lots of possibilities here...this reminds me of assassin cries on live at release, from peeps running around with no melee resists, in dropped gear, unbuffed, demanding assassin nerfs.

Ridifool wrote:ok, if you have determined the style used based entirely on the message *Your movement is slowed* then, check right above it, you will notice he is diseased which also slows movement.

What is the condition of the 2 armor pieces hit in the first screen shot?

Is it possible you swapped gloves out for haste charge?

Lots of possibilities here...this reminds me of assassin cries on live at release, from peeps running around with no melee resists, in dropped gear, unbuffed, demanding assassin nerfs.

As i have solved other bugs before ..shows i m not idiot , i had the normal gear on me, and for your information, my swap items are lvl 51 armours aswell not lvl 5 . And what r u talking about disease? i am the one who got hit i know how garrote gphic style looks..lol some find themselfs talking ..