No Volley in Darkness Falls?

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Postby hammeron » Feb 25, 2010 06:27

Ok. This is very hard for me to understand. If you take away volley in Darkness Falls, then you should take away Perforate Artery, & Slam, & Instant Disease, & Instant DoT, etc....

My Hunter is Bow Specced so has no chance in combat with a Spear. So, if I attack normal with a bow (which can rarely be a crit cuz enemy is moving), I might get 2 shots in - which any instant (that can be a charge added to any crafted item which means anone can rupt me) then since in melee combat im dead.

You've made my hunter a worthless leech again. It's all I can do now.

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Postby Irijifijimiji » Feb 25, 2010 06:49

I think Volley might have been taken away in DF because, I've heard you can stand in the entrance of DF and shoot all the way down to the umbral hulks below due to a glitch.

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Postby Eclipsed » Feb 25, 2010 06:58

Actualy it was a patch on live to prevent players from using volley threw the ground, to attack mobs out of range without aggro, but on uthgard it doesnt work like that and no matter what youl get aggro, but the mob would be out of range anyway, since volley has a max range. So basicly its because of a patch that doesnt really apply to uthgard, because it cant be abused in that sense as it was on live. But youl have to learn to use bow without that tool, as it will prob get re-done and have little to no use, so learn to use without or youl have to respec for full melee or hybrid, full bow isnt going to be as effective in the future most likely, unless there is more fixes to archery.
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Postby Ithiggi » Feb 25, 2010 07:41

Irijifijimiji wrote:I think Volley might have been taken away in DF because, I've heard you can stand in the entrance of DF and shoot all the way down to the umbral hulks below due to a glitch.


Actually it was above the hulks... I think one can still target players with normal shots from up there... I should test it.
Volley hasn't been usable in DF on live for a long long time.

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Postby Eclipsed » Feb 25, 2010 08:43

If your talking about the room with the broken bridge, above those hulks, why shouldnt you be able to attack someone below. Its an open room, and in range. Even a caster can reach back, depending on the position of each player.
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Postby Ithiggi » Feb 25, 2010 09:11

Eclipsed wrote:If your talking about the room with the broken bridge, above those hulks, why shouldnt you be able to attack someone below. Its an open room, and in range. Even a caster can reach back, depending on the position of each player.


Yes the broken bridge with the flashing light across the way.

Of course you should be able to but I am not sure of the range because /range only works on objects here unlike live and I have not shot at anyone with out a volley there.

Albs have DF atm and my hunter is in there I'll check after reboot.

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Postby silenced » Feb 25, 2010 14:03

Eclipsed wrote:If your talking about the room with the broken bridge, above those hulks, why shouldnt you be able to attack someone below. Its an open room, and in range. Even a caster can reach back, depending on the position of each player.



You can shoot from up there without using volley, IF the group there is inside the room.


Finally Volley been fixed for not being able to be used INSIDE dungeons. =)

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Postby Iceer » Feb 25, 2010 14:18

Eclipsed wrote:Actualy it was a patch on live to prevent players from using volley threw the ground, to attack mobs out of range without aggro, but on uthgard it doesnt work like that and no matter what youl get aggro, but the mob would be out of range anyway, since volley has a max range. So basicly its because of a patch that doesnt really apply to uthgard, because it cant be abused in that sense as it was on live. But youl have to learn to use bow without that tool, as it will prob get re-done and have little to no use, so learn to use without or youl have to respec for full melee or hybrid, full bow isnt going to be as effective in the future most likely, unless there is more fixes to archery.


One reason was that you can shoot your Volley behind the stairs of your/enemy Realm. In fact, you can use Volley to kill Enemies in their Safe Zone in Darkness Falls (Remember 2300 Range vs. 1500 from any Caster which got Cooldown too). To avoid abusing that, Mythic disabled Archer RA's in Darkness Falls to prevent it.

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Postby CalvoHP » Feb 25, 2010 14:38

on purga tiv made a small radious around towers to avoid players doing volley to inside buildings from the outside, i guess it can be done near stairs and not breaking the chances for snipers in all DF.

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Postby Eclipsed » Feb 25, 2010 17:10

Yes one issue would be the stairs, but of course an archer firing the bottom with volley would work, as long as the elevation penalty isnt effecting volley , as i dont think it suppose to. Also have you tryed to get a GT up there from the ground level, it doesnt easly go up without being under ground, and adjusting the hight only works up to the last step, which casters can reach also. Its a safe zone because you cant climb the stairs, there is plenty of room to backup to avoid a caster, archer or anything else that is range.
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Postby Doomshot » Feb 25, 2010 17:44

I really hope they fix this. Ban the cheaters and bring back our one nice thing about being bow spec'd=[

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Postby CalvoHP » Feb 26, 2010 09:02

push !

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Postby nixian » Feb 26, 2010 09:57

this is a change to make it livelike

nothing to discuss or to ask for


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