NS question

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Postby Knaller » May 18, 2016 12:23

Hey,

I was planning on playing NS once server releases. I have no experience with NS whatsoever though...could someone give me insight on what the preferred spec would be for RvR? Is it always CS focussed or is there also a spec going for piercing+CD? I ve read a few times already that NS is relatively weak on low RR with patch 1.65? I also read that speccing Wild Arcana gives you increased tic dmg/debuff on poison? Is that true? Lastly, there is no side stun combo on this patch level for NS, correct?
Answers would be much appreciated, if it was all discussed elsewhere I d appreciate a link :D

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Postby Autarch » May 18, 2016 16:48

Usually people go 44 cs and composite envenom, stealth, piercing and rest CD. You may prefer 39CS and more CD it is up to you.

Seems no side stun, need confirmation.

NS will be Weaker at low ranks but at the end it is a tough ennemy. +30% absorb for 60 sec every 15 mins from avoid pain 3, viper double dot dmg for 30 sec (only affects dot).
Wild arcana gives critical % chance to ALL kind of poison. % chance seems low, critical value can go from 1% to 99% i heard. Can be godly by highly unreliable.

Inf gît dragonfang and old vanish means 2 PA

Sb has ****** which means a LOT of powerful passives like inf

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Postby Lucilius- » May 18, 2016 21:33

What do you guys mean no side stun?

Isn't Celtic Dual level 18 Style - Ice Storm... a side 4 second stun? If not then I need to re-think my build utilizing the 18 Ice Storm Side Stun + 29 Tempest Bleed.

Are you all referring to a Critical Strike side stun combo?

After work I will log on my shade and check at the trainer what the 18 Style says for Ice Storm.

EDIT: So looking at the trainer right now...Level 18 style called Ice Storm is a side target attack that cost Medium endurance, does low damage with a medium hit bonus. Effect: Target cannot move or take any other action for 4 seconds.

So as of now - stun exists on the style for Nightshades. After doing research, it doesn't look like the stun was REMOVED until 1.67 thus I think it is safe.

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Postby Knaller » May 19, 2016 10:58

Ah that's awesome! I had read in the forum somewhere that on patch 1.65 it was not implemented for NS and ranger, but only for BM. But if that's not true, awesome :)

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Postby Sivle » May 19, 2016 14:09

Patch notes say Blademaster only, but also Rangers and Nightsahdes got side stun at lvl 18 CD with 1.62. Since that time, these side stuns have never been removed. They exist even today if you're playing live servers.

If I will be playing a nightshade, I am running 44 Crit, 35 Stealth, Envenom, Pierce, 28 Celtic Dual.
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Postby Autarch » May 19, 2016 14:38

You ll have to AT to 48 and be rank6 in order to get that spec AND the 29 CD to get the side stun chain

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Postby Sivle » May 19, 2016 15:47

Well, i don't cares about CD 29 style. After side stun, you better switch to pincer. Deals way more damage.

Autotrain I'm planing till lvl 32. So I can play last two bgs and get rr3 before I start lvl 50 rvr.

This means, I will have 35+11+2 envenom (enough for last str/con debuff, lifebane isn't that important at the start), 35+11+2 stealth (enough, rr5 should be possible rather fast) and 35+11+2 Pierce (same as stealth).

Sure I could lower CD spec to get 50 Envenom, Stealth and 51 Pierce - but then, I would need respec stones to get an appropriate spec at rr4 and rr5. And I doubt that my money will be suffiicent for this *g*
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Postby Folo » May 21, 2016 15:50

Hey, talking of specs, people keep saying about auto-train? i don't understand how this works could someone reply with what to do when speccing my NS? lol

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Postby 2P1S » May 22, 2016 08:49

If you put any points into stealth it won't auto train. Don't invest any points into stealth till 50 and you're golden!

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Postby Folo » May 22, 2016 17:13

Ahh ok gotchya thanks

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Postby Ilerget » May 22, 2016 19:47

2P1S wrote:If you put any points into stealth it won't auto train. Don't invest any points into stealth till 50 and you're golden!

autotrain ends at 48, you can start putting points that lvl
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