lvl 50 creep spec / template question

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Postby Shakes » Feb 19, 2018 16:32

Lvl 50 ani 50 creep/ 20 Verd

How useful is +11 for anything in animist template? will 50+11 make damage of forest turrets higher or more consistent than just 50 without +11 from template?

Thank you, just trying to understand endgame animist better.

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Postby trademark » Feb 19, 2018 19:09

Your damage will be slightly higher, and your power cost will be the same, as I understand it.

If you're open to alternatives and simply want to be high creeping to lolspam shrooms, I'd suggest instead going something closer to 35-39 Creeping and the rest Arb, with perhaps 7 Verd for the bubble. You don't get a lot of good stuff going to 50 in Creeping, and the primary mileage you get out of a high Creeping is an efficient L50 Baseline turret, rather than the damage and spec skills. You still get a decent (albeit not the best) controlled snare turret, and a decent (again, albeit no the best) AoE root, which is most notable for its quick cast time rather than its AoE effect. And in RvR, when killing a specific, most of the time you want to use your baseline Arboreal Lifetap, not a bomber, to blow things up. This is because Bombers a.) don't interrupt casters; b.) take forever to get to the target (so your target might actually be dead before the bomber does anything) and c.) can, on occasion, bug out and simply not hit your target (although it's really #1 and #2 that drive this desire to lifetap).

In PvE, basically nothing matters except turret uptime, which an aggregate Creeping of 50 achieves just fine.

Best of luck!
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Postby SpaceTouareg » Feb 20, 2018 10:26

Bomber pet don't interrupt caster when they explodes????

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Postby Satiah » Feb 20, 2018 12:09

SpaceTouareg wrote:Bomber pet don't interrupt caster when they explodes????


Nope. FnF's stop nuking aswell. Verdant Pboa nuke is fubar aswell, but thats a 1.65 feature. I havent even checked the melee debuffs or the absorb buffs, but basically the whole class is borked.
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Postby GreenP » Feb 20, 2018 14:33

So they have the only dmg-spell in the game that doesnt rupt, right?
Does that also mean their bombers dont set anyone into combat? Probably not but still ... weird unique mechanic. I never touched ani on live
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Postby SpaceTouareg » Feb 20, 2018 15:10

Satiah wrote:
SpaceTouareg wrote:Bomber pet don't interrupt caster when they explodes????


Nope. FnF's stop nuking aswell. Verdant Pboa nuke is fubar aswell, but thats a 1.65 feature. I havent even checked the melee debuffs or the absorb buffs, but basically the whole class is borked.


It s surprise me A LOT!
As GreenP said , they have the only dmg spell in the game that doesn t rupt ????
Are you sure of what you are advancing ? Do you have tested this fact in game ??

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Postby Satiah » Feb 20, 2018 15:58

SpaceTouareg wrote:
Satiah wrote:
SpaceTouareg wrote:Bomber pet don't interrupt caster when they explodes????


Nope. FnF's stop nuking aswell. Verdant Pboa nuke is fubar aswell, but thats a 1.65 feature. I havent even checked the melee debuffs or the absorb buffs, but basically the whole class is borked.


It s surprise me A LOT!
As GreenP said , they have the only dmg spell in the game that doesn t rupt ????
Are you sure of what you are advancing ? Do you have tested this fact in game ??


Yes just tested it.
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Postby GreenP » Feb 21, 2018 08:25

First post mentioning its not rupting i found is in a german daocforum, end 2006
http://daoc-guide.4players.de/forums/sh ... d-ihr-rupt


A fix for this was made in patch 1.86, launch of LOTM addon, also end of 2006


http://camelotherald.wikia.com/wiki/Pat ... rsion_1.86

- Fixed an issue where Animist bombers were not interrupting other players. Bombers once again have the ability to interrupt



But why does it say "once again" if bombers never rupted before!
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Postby SpaceTouareg » Feb 21, 2018 10:27

Because it s a bug, and it s had been fixed previously, i presume

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Postby Satiah » Feb 21, 2018 13:47

GreenP wrote:But why does it say "once again" if bombers never rupted before!


Bombers always interrupted. I guess a bug creeped in and they fixed it, so the are interrupting "once again".
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Postby GreenP » Feb 21, 2018 14:02

Satiah wrote:
GreenP wrote:But why does it say "once again" if bombers never rupted before!


Bombers always interrupted. I guess a bug creeped in and they fixed it, so the are interrupting "once again".


Yea but why and who thought this was always like that and brokefixed it that way :p
Or it was by mistake. No idea
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Postby trademark » Feb 21, 2018 20:55

GreenP wrote:
Satiah wrote:
GreenP wrote:But why does it say "once again" if bombers never rupted before!


Bombers always interrupted. I guess a bug creeped in and they fixed it, so the are interrupting "once again".


Yea but why and who thought this was always like that and brokefixed it that way :p
Or it was by mistake. No idea


I've been under the impression that it's an Uthgard bug, not a Live bug, but in any case, it's a thing we get to live with. Use Lifetap for nuking casters. :)
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Postby AlonzoMa » Mar 21, 2020 00:02

if a robot attacks the first emitter lens, it will be destroyed.
this is where the spare comes in.

oh and the robot will blow up. since he was not killing me i used it for shield.

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