50 Sword hunter possible?

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Postby t-bone » Mar 09, 2017 17:32

Anyone tried the following spec for low RR Norse hunter?
50 Sword
34 BC
37 Stealth
27 Bow

Would be fun to try some ragna and having decent bow :-)

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Postby Voltaire » Mar 10, 2017 03:59

I was wondering the same thing. Even created an Norse, strength specced hunter alt. Would love an answer from a seasoned 1.65 Hunter. How viable is this spec at this patch level?

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Postby relvinian » Mar 10, 2017 05:21

50 Sword
34 BC
37 Stealth
27 Bow

I think 44 sword is enough which gives you 36 bow.

That combo is going to serve you better, in my opinion.
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Postby tivook » Mar 10, 2017 14:26

I'd argue that it'll never be as good as a spear hunter, simply because thrust is better versus the classes you're most likely to encounter.

Furthermore, slash is 100% str based while thrust is 50% str 50% dex so a good spear hunter will probably make more damage than a sword one, norse or no norse.

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Postby gavanna » Mar 10, 2017 15:53

Tried both spear and sword norse and koby during beta spear>sword any situation i test but i you prefer sword style why not
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Postby Rendiviel » Mar 10, 2017 15:55

I'd argue that you could spec better without putting points into BC... 50 Spear/sword 45 Bow remainder into stealth and just use D/Q charges+buff potions to fill in the gap of not having the BC spec buffs. That's just my opinion though.

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Postby tivook » Mar 10, 2017 16:10

Rendiviel wrote:I'd argue that you could spec better without putting points into BC... 50 Spear/sword 45 Bow remainder into stealth and just use D/Q charges+buff potions to fill in the gap of not having the BC spec buffs. That's just my opinion though.


You could, however afaik there are diminishing returns on every skill above 50 so, a point in sword at 49 -> 50 yields alot more weapon skill than 50 -> 51. Same goes with stealth, a point sub 50 gives you alot more than a point above 50.

For more info on stealth see here: disorder.dk/daoc/stealth/

Therefore, I'd argue that it's far more effective to go 44 spear, 35 stealth, 40 bow and 32 bc or 39 spear, 40 stealth, 40 bow and 32 bc. Simply because you can max everything out and get the most out of every point invested.

The only thing I would trade away the 32 bc for would be 50 bow 14 bc, just to be able to get as high damage from the crit shot as possible.

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Postby Kaudo » Mar 10, 2017 21:49

I tested a lvl 50 templated Norse hunter on beta with 50 sword, 35 stealth rest BC. I had str/con, d/q and Haste charge items. I was able to kill mostly any stealther 1v1 but I needed purge / IP up to do so. I don't think it's worth it when compared to SB with charge items.
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Postby Rendiviel » Mar 10, 2017 21:51

Kaudo wrote:I tested a lvl 50 templated Norse hunter on beta with 50 sword, 35 stealth rest BC. I had str/con, d/q and Haste charge items. I was able to kill mostly any stealther 1v1 but I needed purge / IP up to do so. I don't think it's worth it when compared to SB with charge items.

I'm saying you could go 50 spear 45 bow 35 stealth if you drop BC from the spec entirely, using crit shot to open and either sword/spear for melee combat. You sacrifice the spec d/q for sure, but with the 75 d/q charge, it isn't a major loss imo

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Postby relvinian » Mar 11, 2017 02:02

I was talking with someone about this earlier.

Sword is not better than spear. But it has differences and sometimes it may be better for you.

For example-- both the sword moves in the snare chain get + medium to hit.

The spear 2nd move in snare chain (which does last longer) has no bonus to hit.

So for like a 50 bow spec kobold? Believe it or not, 15 sword might be better.
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