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This is all wrong ^^ Higher skill never reduced power cost. Nuke is not a power waste in many cases (if you think otherwise you never played with a good caba or you don't play sorc right) Highest mezz shield is 55%, not 80% Ae root is far from useless (ofc you don't root det tanks with it). 46/28 is good but not the only option, depending on the setups you play with and against, 40 body is just as good or better. But thats just my point of view I guess:) I am assuming direct control.
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No i played tank setups most of the time. Imlo mind sorc is for rupt/cc and not for dmg. Id rather spam amnesia on the sups then assisting the dd. 40 Body doesnt give u the mighty red spec nuke, only some points less variance 
Yes the base value is 55%. U get a 25% spec bonus. Tested that on uthgard after the shield was fixed.
Right those Req druids or any mid healers always standing 350 locs next to each other^^ |
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There is a 25% spec bonus for the shield, they implemented that a lil bit later on uthgard so you have 55% + 25% for the shield. Ae is useless, why should you ae root them if you can single root them for a much longer time? red single root > blue aoe root For rupt you use the aoe mezz most of the time anyways. The base line nuke is actually really mana consuming, and your main job as sorc/main cc/only demezzer in grp, isnt dmg too  Just take the stuff Xedie wrote, he has to know it   |
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no ! everyone is wrong ! you need to spec 49 matter for the red aoe dex/quick debuff ! red base and aoe dex/quick debuff = no heals ! and you get a snare dd so you can peel of the tanks from yourself !
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OMG red d/q debuff is 47 body! noooooooooooooooooooob! |
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OMG Matter also has a red d/q debuff! noooooooooooooooob!
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At least i understood the sarcasm  |
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Amnesia is a terrible spell honestly, why spam it? the only advantage it has is its range if you REALLY can't get closer, otherwise any other spell is better for rupting.
Since when is spec bonus additive and not multiplied? And why would there even be a spec bonus on a spell that is already a percentage.. Sounds ridiculous tbh, but okay ^^
I've rarely played against Req or whatever but in some way you're right, in pure 8v8 it's not always useful. In some occasion you can throw a nice aoe but surely not every fight. My groups were playing a kite heavy style, and there were plenty of fights being added, 8vsX etc. I assure you in all those situations my yellow aoe roots were not useless and neither was my damage:)
Didnt he say to not underestimate damage then ? Anyway I don't care you play like you want, but no one insulted me for using other spells than mezz and demezz for the years I played I am assuming direct control.
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A spell with 2300 range, 4 points mana cost, 2s castime and the chance to break qc and moc is terrible? 
I dont know why it is that way but it is livelike. There was a bugreport about the mezz shield and it got fixed so i guess its legit^^
And i realy dont care about your sorc playstyle either but about spreading wrong infos. |
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Except my infos aren't wrong just because you disagree. For me it's just as wrong to say sorc is just a mezzer/demezzer and shouldn't nuke because it costs power. This is not a bard, sorc has loads of utility and a good sorc should use it.
I was maybe wrong on the mezz shield thing I guess, it sounds weird but I'm not going to investigate this so nevermind that:)
Yes, in most situations it's terrible. You lock yourself while spamming on some guy while you can give rupt timers on at least 2 targets with anything else. Moc is an exception but it was used very rarely when I played. Will be different with 100% moc from old ras ofc, this will be the best reason to spam it! I am assuming direct control.
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all main sorc's need to spec 46/28 that mez reduction just too good, Also sorcerer main roll is CC/demez/rupt and then if they can do some damage. Doing damage is not priority but sometimes it can add that extra damage needed to drop someone and turn the fight. If you want to spec higher in body then you need to go full body(45), but it will be in caster groups where you already have 1 mind sorc, If not you will always need a 46/28 sorc as main CC.
Hybrid spec are just not so good, you gain very little damage and lose alot of CC power and mez reduction. |
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I guess you never played with Xedie. He never used debuffs but nuked all the time
IRC: 09.01.2013(15:16:36) Dotto: we zerg if other realm zerg in rvr,, we never start zerg thats all! |
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46/28 damage is still good enough for debuff nuke.
There is nothing more annoying than a det5 sorc + none CCable minstrel duo in grp. In Mid you got 3 healers, in Alb det5 sorc and in Hib you better find a good bard playing >> the mid/albs ;P  <<< This avatar is handmade by Inotor Wurzelbert : ) Check out the Mampfer-Threads for more. viewtopic.php?f=10&t=25079 viewtopic.php?f=10&t=26934 |
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Go 46mind/28body or 45mind/29body. Nothing in body compares to the utility of the red mezz damp. The 400 radius red aoe mezz is a nice bonus too.
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Player speed.
Player positioning. no purge3 concentration 3 no ichor etc 39 37, aoe root. And tolerable mana consumption. Basically, you want one of your best players in this position. You don't put one of your best players as a mere mezz/demess interrupt bot. Theurgist and mercs can do plenty of interrupts, add in minstrel. However, if you do a pure tank setup, sorc/theugist. Then yes, the sorc is just a bot, but then you don't need a good sorc. Just somebody willing to play it. Freeshard celebrity since Odin's Gate "Sup Warlord, Nova, Legion!"
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