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gumby
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 by gumby » Dec 07, 2017 17:57
Gnilch MitDerMilch wrote:i did it.... got all items  . I got it nearly capped and maxxed out... here some 1% and 1 point in str... i try to figure out if i can get it a little better. RoG Belt, RoG Bracer, RoG ring, Glacier GIant Cloak, Melee Dragon Ring, Veiled Bracer, DF neck Statistics STR:74/75 CON:75/75 DEX:75/75 QUI:75/75 Resistances Body: 27 Cold: 25 Heat: 25 Energy: 25 Matter: 26 Spirit: 26+5 Crush: 26+2 Slash: 26+3 Thrust: 25 Skills Envenom: 11 Stealth: 11 Critical Strike: 11 Thrust: 11 Dual Wield: 11 Bonuses Chest: Imbue: 37.5/32 (Quality: 100) 4 Dual Wield 4 Envenom 9% Spirit 19 Constitution Utility: 70.7 TOA Utility: 0.0 Arms: Imbue: 37.5/32 (Quality: 100) 9% Heat 4 Envenom 9% Energy 7% Slash Utility: 70.0 TOA Utility: 0.0 Head: Imbue: 37.5/32 (Quality: 100) 3 Envenom 9% Thrust 4 Critical Strike 25 Dexterity Utility: 69.7 TOA Utility: 0.0 Legs: Imbue: 37.5/32 (Quality: 100) 3 Dual Wield 4 Thrust 7% Cold 28 Quickness Utility: 67.7 TOA Utility: 0.0 Hands: Imbue: 37.5/32 (Quality: 100) 28 Quickness 9% Thrust 9% Slash 2 Stealth Utility: 64.7 TOA Utility: 0.0 Feet: Imbue: 37.5/32 (Quality: 100) 13% Matter 2% Energy 1 Thrust 13% Crush Utility: 61.0 TOA Utility: 0.0 Right Hand: Imbue: 37.5/32 (Quality: 100) 22 Strength 3 Critical Strike 9% Spirit 25 Dexterity Utility: 64.3 TOA Utility: 0.0 Left Hand: Imbue: 37.5/32 (Quality: 100) 4 Dual Wield 9% Heat 19 Constitution 4 Stealth Utility: 70.7 TOA Utility: 0.0 Neck: Imbue: 30.0 7% Thrust 7% Body 7% Energy 48 Hits Utility: 54.0 TOA Utility: 0.0 Cloak: Imbue: 39.5 10% Slash 10% Cold 4 Critical Strike 3 Stealth Utility: 75.0 TOA Utility: 0.0 Jewel: Imbue: 30.0 7% Body 7% Energy 7% Matter 7% Heat Utility: 56.0 TOA Utility: 0.0 Belt: Imbue: 31.5 27 Strength 6% Matter 3 Thrust 28 Hits Utility: 52.0 TOA Utility: 0.0 Left Ring: Imbue: 40.0 72 Hits 3 ALL melee weapon skills 25 Strength 25 Dexterity Utility: 66.3 TOA Utility: 0.0 Right Ring: Imbue: 24.0 19 Quickness 15 Constitution 5% Body 16 Hits Utility: 36.7 TOA Utility: 0.0 Left Wrist: Imbue: 29.5 8% Body 8% Cold 8% Spirit 15 Hits Utility: 51.8 TOA Utility: 0.0 Right Wrist: Imbue: 40.5 13% Crush 22 Constitution 2 Stealth 52 Hits Utility: 63.7 TOA Utility: 0.0
Your ROG ring is actually pretty bad, why use it? Ring of malice, epic or another ROG would be better. Or another dragon ring would be best
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gumby
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by gumby » Dec 07, 2017 18:03
Something I always found to help make the best template, high utility with +skill is not always the best. Your ROG bracer is nice (very nice) but it has +skill. That is a double negative for me, worm wrap has good utility, no +skill and not ROG. If you have the money use it. ROG with +skill will die, and you can't replace. +skill also brings in high utility for low imbue, so best to save it for SC if possible.
With that in mind, using your icy skin and dragon ring, you can build it with worm bracer and 2 ROGs (no +skill). I wont post it as the 2 ROGs items i already bought it, and you dont have worm bracer.
LOKI Build Report
Default Configuration:
Build Utility: 1000.4
Useable Utility: 993.0
TOA Utility: 0.0
Statistics
STR:75/75 CON:76/75 DEX:75/75
QUI:75/75 INT:0/75 PIE:0/75
CHA:0/75 EMP:0/75
Hits:203/200
Power:0/25
AF:0/50
Resistances
Body: 26
Cold: 26
Heat: 27+5
Energy: 26
Matter: 27
Spirit: 26
Crush: 26
Slash: 27+2
Thrust: 26+3
Skills
Envenom: 11
Stealth: 11
Critical Strike: 11
Thrust: 11
Dual Wield: 11
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It is possible for what you want, im sure you can work around dropping worm bracer and working your bracer in. Your low utility ring is no good for a 100% cap no swap infil temp. Also, remember your high utility items with +skill are not (as) good as those without +skill of the same utility, the utility/imbue value is high and should be saved for SCing where possible.
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Gnilch MitDerMilch
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by Gnilch MitDerMilch » Dec 07, 2017 23:19
gumby wrote:Something I always found to help make the best template, high utility with +skill is not always the best. Your ROG bracer is nice (very nice) but it has +skill. That is a double negative for me, worm wrap has good utility, no +skill and not ROG. If you have the money use it. ROG with +skill will die, and you can't replace. +skill also brings in high utility for low imbue, so best to save it for SC if possible.
With that in mind, using your icy skin and dragon ring, you can build it with worm bracer and 2 ROGs (no +skill). I wont post it as the 2 ROGs items i already bought it, and you dont have worm bracer.
LOKI Build Report
Default Configuration:
Build Utility: 1000.4
Useable Utility: 993.0
TOA Utility: 0.0
Statistics
STR:75/75 CON:76/75 DEX:75/75
QUI:75/75 INT:0/75 PIE:0/75
CHA:0/75 EMP:0/75
Hits:203/200
Power:0/25
AF:0/50
Resistances
Body: 26
Cold: 26
Heat: 27+5
Energy: 26
Matter: 27
Spirit: 26
Crush: 26
Slash: 27+2
Thrust: 26+3
Skills
Envenom: 11
Stealth: 11
Critical Strike: 11
Thrust: 11
Dual Wield: 11
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It is possible for what you want, im sure you can work around dropping worm bracer and working your bracer in. Your low utility ring is no good for a 100% cap no swap infil temp. Also, remember your high utility items with +skill are not (as) good as those without +skill of the same utility, the utility/imbue value is high and should be saved for SCing where possible.
Okay... im was absolutly not really aware of that negative point + Skills on it. And tbh i thought that ring would fit somehow because i run out of money a bit. Problem is that i never saw a worm bracer in albion. I joined several raids but somehow we never could harm him.Strategies Like princess all has to be dead, or kill adds asap, otherwise he is not harmable etc.. all those things doesnt worked out. So getting worm bracer is not achievable for me in that kind of way. Now i got a bit scared to build in those skills item, but i firstly thought as i saw the bracer, that it is pretty sick good, but after your argumentation i feel like "okay... its decent but wasnt worth it " lol . I think i will leave that bracer in and in "some" future rebuild a bit. But you absolutely right that ring looks in comparison like garbage. I think dragon ring charge maybe can be good in specific fights, but never tested it, i thought just to start the fight with it on cannot be wrong. Yes i reconsider changing those things, atleast play around to get the job done.. . I never was into building templates so maybe learning the hard way will teach me  . @Requin ?? maybe you take something in the wrong way ? Didnt get your point where i give you that feeling lol. Come to munich for a beer :p.
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Requin
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by Requin » Dec 07, 2017 23:28
I'm just jealous man
Reminder to Self: Quality over Quantity, what is the Value here?
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gumby
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by gumby » Dec 14, 2017 03:00
Based on what I have read, assuming you dont have dex/quick charge. I think you should keep your current temp and sell/trade your items for a dragon caster ring or evern bracer. Getting +5 on 1 resist < +75 dex/quick (or the difference on what the potion gives you).
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Gnilch MitDerMilch
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by Gnilch MitDerMilch » Dec 14, 2017 16:26
gumby wrote:Based on what I have read, assuming you dont have dex/quick charge. I think you should keep your current temp and sell/trade your items for a dragon caster ring or evern bracer. Getting +5 on 1 resist < +75 dex/quick (or the difference on what the potion gives you).
Hey Gumby, yes i share that opinion. Prices for evern are crazy.... its like 90plat - 150 plat. I try it nearly everyday to get evern bracer / DR ring.. . At the moment i keep all money to buy it, if everything falling apart.
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